Comments on: Friday Blu-Ray Framing Issue? http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/ News & Updates for fridaythe13thfilms.com Sat, 22 Jan 2024 21:40:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jay http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-185869 Jay Sun, 14 Feb 2024 11:45:43 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-185869 Paramount will continue to bleed all of you dry, as long as you let them...keep giving them your hard-earned money, go ahead, movie studios are really hurting in this terrible economy. Paramount will continue to bleed all of you dry, as long as you let them…keep giving them your hard-earned money, go ahead, movie studios are really hurting in this terrible economy.

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By: Darkness BDJM http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-185787 Darkness BDJM Sun, 14 Feb 2024 05:23:55 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-185787 The original (and 2-6) just came on Epix HD today and it reminded me of this issue. Ok now the Epix version has the same framing as the Blu-Rsy release (though weaker blues in the lighting, but it seems all the Epix versions have weaker blues as I compared 4-6 to my HDNet Movies recordings and they all had blues in various areas that the Epix versions didn't). I checked both versions for some complained about issues and when Alice tells Mrs. Voorhees that "they're all dead" and Mrs/ Voorhees replies "I'm not afraid" you can see Mrs. Voorhees' chin every step of the way in the frame during her reply and no heads were cut off when Alice made her comment. I also checked to see if the sheriff was cut in half during the hospital scene and he wasn't. I also checked out the sex scene and saw Alice's nipple during several different points, not sure which part Dnick is referring to. The image that heads this article was correct as to the framing around Steve Christie though. I checked all of this on my HTPC using Arcsoft Total Media Theater 3 with the window not expanded to the full screen on my HDTV. Perhaps some commenters have overscan problems on their tv', as some HDTV's do natively (perhaps they can be fixed in the tv's service menu, but be careful with that and write down every native setting before hand). The original (and 2-6) just came on Epix HD today and it reminded me of this issue. Ok now the Epix version has the same framing as the Blu-Rsy release (though weaker blues in the lighting, but it seems all the Epix versions have weaker blues as I compared 4-6 to my HDNet Movies recordings and they all had blues in various areas that the Epix versions didn’t).
I checked both versions for some complained about issues and when Alice tells Mrs. Voorhees that “they’re all dead” and Mrs/ Voorhees replies “I’m not afraid” you can see Mrs. Voorhees’ chin every step of the way in the frame during her reply and no heads were cut off when Alice made her comment. I also checked to see if the sheriff was cut in half during the hospital scene and he wasn’t. I also checked out the sex scene and saw Alice’s nipple during several different points, not sure which part Dnick is referring to. The image that heads this article was correct as to the framing around Steve Christie though. I checked all of this on my HTPC using Arcsoft Total Media Theater 3 with the window not expanded to the full screen on my HDTV. Perhaps some commenters have overscan problems on their tv’, as some HDTV’s do natively (perhaps they can be fixed in the tv’s service menu, but be careful with that and write down every native setting before hand).

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By: pit-n-shit http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-166407 pit-n-shit Sat, 28 Nov 2024 23:44:46 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-166407 I love this site! i really like it to kick back at my sofa at saturday evening and read through every blog here, and this here is still very interresting subject and it leaves a question mark in my head, what is the correct version of the friday the 13th? we got all those editions, laserdisc,vhs,dvd,dvd re-release,dvd re-re-release,blu-ray,warners edition. i would like to get this straight i hate buying a new edition every year till i die just to get another release of the film but still not the best one, this shit is wack! I love this site! i really like it to kick back at my sofa at saturday evening and read through every blog here, and this here is still very interresting subject and it leaves a question mark in my head, what is the correct version of the friday the 13th? we got all those editions, laserdisc,vhs,dvd,dvd re-release,dvd re-re-release,blu-ray,warners edition. i would like to get this straight i hate buying a new edition every year till i die just to get another release of the film but still not the best one, this shit is wack!

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By: DNick http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-134249 DNick Sat, 20 Jun 2024 03:41:25 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-134249 Jason, Back in 1980, when I saw Friday the 13th in the theater, I saw Marcie's nipple at the bottom of the screen during the seen where she and Jack make the beast with two backs. I vividly remember this, because despite axes in faces and arrows through throats, my parents were telling me to cover my eight year old eyes at the sight of a nipple. Ain't that America? Anyway, was the version that was originally released to theaters incorrectly framed? I ask because guess what? On my uncut widescreen Blu-Ray there's no nipple! Please help me understand. Jason,

Back in 1980, when I saw Friday the 13th in the theater, I saw Marcie’s nipple at the bottom of the screen during the seen where she and Jack make the beast with two backs. I vividly remember this, because despite axes in faces and arrows through throats, my parents were telling me to cover my eight year old eyes at the sight of a nipple. Ain’t that America?

Anyway, was the version that was originally released to theaters incorrectly framed? I ask because guess what? On my uncut widescreen Blu-Ray there’s no nipple!

Please help me understand.

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By: tommyblah http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-58050 tommyblah Mon, 23 Mar 2024 22:56:58 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-58050 furthermore, you're also lying about the ratio. i have a TV with a 'Just Scan' setting, and this version is 1.78:1 or 1.79:1...it is definitely not 1.85:1. furthermore, you’re also lying about the ratio. i have a TV with a ‘Just Scan’ setting, and this version is 1.78:1 or 1.79:1…it is definitely not 1.85:1.

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By: tommyblah http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-58042 tommyblah Mon, 23 Mar 2024 22:53:20 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-58042 this is the typical kind of lies we get from paramount to keep the sales going. yeah freaking right, the director's intention was for the title of the movie to be too big for the screen. give me a break! this is the typical kind of lies we get from paramount to keep the sales going. yeah freaking right, the director’s intention was for the title of the movie to be too big for the screen. give me a break!

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By: Scott S http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-49622 Scott S Thu, 12 Mar 2024 17:22:55 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-49622 Thanks for the reply. Although I still highly question that the current transfer is correct. It seems that it is zoomed in even closer than the previous uncut version done by Warner. http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/?image=6&vergleich=friday_the_13th The framing is also not consistent with the framing use at the beginning of Part 2. There also seems to be many other awkward framing composition issues throughout. If you have scans of the original full frame master and can compare them with the chart I would LOVE to see them, and I would be VERY happy to post your reply at AVS forums, horrordvds.com or anywhere else. If you want you can e-mail me at grodd@pacbell.net Thanks for the reply. Although I still highly question that the current transfer is correct. It seems that it is zoomed in even closer than the previous uncut version done by Warner.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/?image=6&vergleich=friday_the_13th

The framing is also not consistent with the framing use at the beginning of Part 2. There also seems to be many other awkward framing composition issues throughout.

If you have scans of the original full frame master and can compare them with the chart I would LOVE to see them, and I would be VERY happy to post your reply at AVS forums, horrordvds.com
or anywhere else.
If you want you can e-mail me at grodd@pacbell.net

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By: John http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-49201 John Wed, 11 Mar 2024 21:35:06 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-49201 "Jason", do you work for Paramount? “Jason”, do you work for Paramount?

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By: Jason http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-47682 Jason Mon, 09 Mar 2024 02:11:59 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-47682 Hey Campers - let's clear the air here about something that has been stinking up my beloved Camp Crytal Lake. It is very gratifying to know that there are devoted and knowledgeable campers out there that pay close attention to the work that I oversee for DVD and Blu-ray. In order to answer the question that was raised, I sent the film that was used for the latest transfer, along with the videotape masters from 1999 and 2024 back to the facility that did the film-to-tape transfer work. Below is the response from the chief engineer of the post production facility: “­Using the SMPTE Academy (1.85:1) sizing chart we put up the previous transfer and our transfer master to compare and verify sizing. We found that the 1999 transfer was sized overscan and done incorrectly to the SMPTE chart, and your 2024 transfer was sized according to the SMPTE sizing chart. Thus in fact making the 2024 scan the proper version The chart (unfortunately I am unbable to post the SMPTE charts - as this site won't let me post .jpgs - but believe me they are correct I have seen them thru my mask with my own eyes), representing the original 1999 transfer is sized to include areas well outside the Academy Scanned Area, as well as not being vertically centered on the frame. The Academy Area is the portion of the frame that would have been projected in the theater, and which the DP would have composed for in the camera. By showing this extra area the composition no longer represents the director’s intent, and items not intended to be seen may now be visible. The other chart shows a correct Academy 1.85 setup as it only slightly goes beyond the Academy area and has the correct vertical orientation. This will recreate what was shown in the theaters.” See campers fear not as you have nothting to worry about Jason is looking out for each and everyone of you in my own special way and yet you question me about it, maybe some of you deserve a little special attention in the woodshed for not appreciating all my hard work. It does feel good to be back at the box office slashing all the way to #1 and couldn't have done it without all my campers who have not seen the last of me this year or in the coming years, nothing can stop men now and there is still a lot more work to be done at the lake. Jason - March 2024 Camp Crystal Lake Hey Campers – let’s clear the air here about something that has been stinking up my beloved Camp Crytal Lake.

It is very gratifying to know that there are devoted and knowledgeable campers out there that pay close attention to the work that I oversee for DVD and Blu-ray. In order to answer the question that was raised, I sent the film that was used for the latest transfer, along with the videotape masters from 1999 and 2024 back to the facility that did the film-to-tape transfer work. Below is the response from the chief engineer of the post production facility:

“­Using the SMPTE Academy (1.85:1) sizing chart we put up the previous transfer and our transfer master to compare and verify sizing. We found that the 1999 transfer was sized overscan and done incorrectly to the SMPTE chart, and your 2024 transfer was sized according to the SMPTE sizing chart. Thus in fact making the 2024 scan the proper version

The chart (unfortunately I am unbable to post the SMPTE charts – as this site won’t let me post .jpgs – but believe me they are correct I have seen them thru my mask with my own eyes), representing the original 1999 transfer is sized to include areas well outside the Academy Scanned Area, as well as not being vertically centered on the frame. The Academy Area is the portion of the frame that would have been projected in the theater, and which the DP would have composed for in the camera. By showing this extra area the composition no longer represents the director’s intent, and items not intended to be seen may now be visible. The other chart shows a correct Academy 1.85 setup as it only slightly goes beyond the Academy area and has the correct vertical orientation. This will recreate what was shown in the theaters.”

See campers fear not as you have nothting to worry about Jason is looking out for each and everyone of you in my own special way and yet you question me about it, maybe some of you deserve a little special attention in the woodshed for not appreciating all my hard work. It does feel good to be back at the box office slashing all the way to #1 and couldn’t have done it without all my campers who have not seen the last of me this year or in the coming years, nothing can stop men now and there is still a lot more work to be done at the lake.

Jason – March 2024
Camp Crystal Lake

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By: terry http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-34021 terry Fri, 13 Feb 2024 01:53:48 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1344#comment-34021 tommyblah, I agree. It does look like Paramount's trying to milk every penny out of us they can. They really could've done it right the first time, if they wanted to. tommyblah, I agree. It does look like Paramount’s trying to milk every penny out of us they can. They really could’ve done it right the first time, if they wanted to.

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