Comments on: Friday Conversation: Did Michael DeLuca Ruin “Jason X” At The Box Office?

By: Balooeyezz

Balooeyezz — Fri, 05 Mar 2024 22:04:19 +0000

LOL… simple answer: no. A crappy script, crappy direction and crappy acting ruined Jason X.

By: Ryderup

Ryderup — Thu, 04 Mar 2024 06:32:53 +0000

“I don\’t think it did, Jason X was just a fun movie to watch. The reason I say that is because with Jason Goes to Hell, I disliked that movie and FvsJ did not live up to my expection. Don\’t get me wrong, Jason X was not a great movie, but it was in my mind, the better of the 3 New Line movies for Jason.”

So true.

By: Dogmatic

Dogmatic — Wed, 03 Mar 2024 16:13:19 +0000

De Luca had nothing to do with ruining Jason X. He didn’t leave of his own free will; New Line fired him.

I can still get just a tad of enjoyment out of the film. Kane’s pre-uber look is my personal favorite of the series and they did the best that they could with the steeing and what have you. My biggest problem with the film is the music. The music is just god awful just like the JGTH soundtrack. Would it have killed ‘em to give Manfredini a little more cash so he could hire a few orchestral musicians insted of having a horribe syth/electronic score? Ugh. And Uber Jason? No.

By: tommyblah

tommyblah — Tue, 02 Mar 2024 11:59:16 +0000

rick, i think most people have the same opinion as you…that it’s a goofy idea from the beginning.

nobody wants an in-space entry to any slasher franchise. i don’t know why anyone would choose that gimmick because the chance of it doing well is slim-to-none.

most people never wanted to give this a chance from the beginning…including new line. that’s what “happened” to it.

that said, even though i had the same bad taste in my mouth, i ended up liking the movie. it’s not without flaw, but it is surprisingly better than i expected for an in-space entry. if it had a little more prosthetic gore and less CG stuff, it would be one of the best later entries IMO.

it’s definitely more watchable than JGTH of FvJ for me.

what would really do it justice is a good BD/DVD release with the deleted scenes…in fact, i’d love for them to reinsert the missing parts at the beginning and the extended fight with Kay-Em…i think it would make it a better movie.

By: Rick

Rick — Mon, 01 Mar 2024 21:12:48 +0000

I think the concept of Jason in space is what killed this movie’s box office.
It was just a goofy idea from the get go.
Personally I don’t think downloading hurt this particular movie as much as many believe. It had an effect, sure, but I don’t think it was huge.
Non-fans weren’t going crazy to find this thing on the internet. Anyone who isn’t a fan of the series that DID download it probably would not have paid to see it in the first place if it hadn’t have leaked online.
Fans of the series who did download it probably paid to see it again just to support the franchise, those that didn’t probably would have waited to rent it.
The real profit for any movie is made up by the general audiences who will go see something simply because the commercials/trailers look interesting and Jason in space just wasn’t appealing to the masses. The core fan base who will pay to see it just because it’s a movie with Jason in it will, of course, help the box office numbers, but we won’t make or break the film in the long run.
I saw it opening weekend in a theatre that was about half full and no one seemed impressed when the credits began to roll, so I don’t think word-of-mouth helped at all either.
Regardless of when this film was released, year or month, it was just a bad movie that held very little interest for anyone outside of the main fan base and, as such, I don’t think it would have made much more then it did regardless of it’s release date.

By: Chris ver. II

Chris ver. II — Mon, 01 Mar 2024 18:55:28 +0000

To me it was theme film that did not settle well. Something was removed from the formula of the previous Fridays, however I do not believe that was the sci-fi setting. Jason Goes To Hell, I think it would have been one of the beter ones if they had set up the first half of the film with usual stalk and kill, this at Camp Crystal Lake and then had him blown up. Then make the rest of the film similar to the final product. FVJ, the plot seemed more focus on Freddy but using Jason as the key to his scheme. I still would rather watch these over Friday The 13th part 5, Halloween III or the princess brides.

By: eXile

eXile — Sun, 28 Feb 2024 15:36:03 +0000

I think a different release date could have changed the actual box office numbers a bit, but I don’t think it would have change the general public’s reaction to the film. I thought the concept behind it was great (it’s essentially the same plot as the original Alien) but the execution of the film was way off.

I think Jim Isaac’s direction was the exact opposite of what it should have been. In the DVD commentary he says something to the effect that he wanted the environment not to be dark and cold (or something like that), and we end up with a warm and inviting space ship in several scenes. This just isn’t the kind of environment that works with a slasher film.

The musical score seemed almost comical (I’ve often thought that it reminds me of a Looney Tunes Bugs Bunny episode at point).

The Cunninghams’ dialog rewrites were just stupid and out of place for a movie that is supposed to be considered horror. The humor in the movie was so out of place that it made it difficult to take the movie seriously on any level, because it seemed like the characters in the film were “in” on the jokes. Jason Lives had comedic elements but they were more a result of the circumstances as opposed to the characters actually spouting out one liners (ex. dude smashed into a smiley face on a tree, Martin mumbling about some folks having a strange idea of entertainment, etc.)

I thought the Über-Jason concept was also a great idea that was not executed properly. When the transformation occurred, he was no longer recognizable as Jason, other than he still moved like Kane’s interpretation of Jason. I think that Über-Jason should have had an appearance that was recognizable as Jason to the point that if you showed somebody a picture of Über-Jason who had no knowledge of the plot of Jason X, they would still know it was Jason (only an amped-up version of him). I can remember when the Über-Jason photo was first leaked, a vast majority of us on the old message boards did not believe it was real for a second, because it looked nothing like Jason.

I enjoy Jason X on some levels, but ultimately it ends up being another “what could have been” movie. To its credit is does have some re-watch value if you’re up for mindless “fun.”

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sun, 28 Feb 2024 06:53:01 +0000

To me the thing that killed the movie was the look of Uber Jason. Other than his head the rest of the costume was god awful. But as for the timing of the release, personally I feel it wouldn’t have made a difference. The hardcore friday fans are very outnumbered by casual movie-goers, so it was doomed no matter what. Personally, I love the movie, it was a fun ride for an hour and a half, but I feel it was doomed from the start

By: pitshit

pitshit — Sun, 28 Feb 2024 00:24:32 +0000

i dont think michael deluca and the date had anything to do with this. new line jason movies were all bad. i think that after part 4 the series got really downward, the new beginning was very good movie but having no jason was not the best thing. part 6 i thought was not my kind of jason ( a zombie like) and i felt more of a funny atmosphere in it rather than a spooky feel. part 7 was a good movie and still had a real friday feeling (the score,realness,killings,crystal lake etc…) but i really didnt like the telekinetic crap. part 8 was bad and part 9 was a shame and a total poop. jason x was better than part 9 but had no friday feel in it i think, just jason voorhees. freddy vs jason wasnt that good either.

By: ballhanger

ballhanger — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 17:33:41 +0000

Personally, i feel that that the series has been in trouble since TNB. Which i feel was the last decent entry prior to the remake. JTM was bad and lot of interest had been lost by that point. As a fan base we had been had. So now we feel lucky to have Jason return to the screen in JGTH. wow, the trialers were half decent and we are excited again. wrong! this thing is a piece of crap with NO Jason. Really? ANB tried this and failed already, failing. So. no what? I know! Uber-Jason?? What? Can you guys really watch this thing and feel like you are watching Jason? Like, from sackhead to this? No, sorry, not even close. Terrible sets, writing, shitty Jason costume and mask, and Uber? c’mon this is not the guy who hung in the barn. The studio was reaching far beyond even Jasons distorted reality into the absurd. The fact that the remake even happened with this POS on the radar is a miracle. It is an embarassing entry and for some reason its the most-often-played entry on TV. I like my Jason human, and my era 80’s.

By: Pdub

Pdub — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 16:52:21 +0000

I have been a friday fan from day one when I was in my teens. Jason X was terrible. When I found out that it was going to take place in space I lost all interest. Friday the 13th fans take enough criticism from everyone and that was the topping on the cake. Space? are you kidding me……that was a terrible idea.

By: snakeyez14

snakeyez14 — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 16:14:35 +0000

and that is one of main issue with JA86 (Jason after 1986). He changed so much, the worst was JGTH, it like his head was one giant ZIT ready to pop. yes, yes, yes, I know, I truly rated JGTH as the worst. Sorry, just wish it had never been made, I remember when New Line took the rights over and I really thought we were going to see maybe some cameo from King and others. The answer to where is Paul, Amy Steele returns. I just thought that it would be Jason going after all survivors and killing them all. Very disappointed except for the end when Freddy Hand, then F vs J came out and disappointed again

By: Jasontyo

Jasontyo — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 15:01:43 +0000

In Jason X, Kane looks like a living breathing human again, how exactly did he change back from being a rotting corpse zombie?

By: KnightShade

KnightShade — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 12:49:01 +0000

Given the right Director, the right budget, the right actors so on etc, the movie could have been a hell of a lot better than it is now. NewLine pretty much fucked up the series after they bought it, JGTH was a piece of shit, FVJ was garbage which is a shame, could of been epic with 2 legends of horror going head to head. And also if JX had of been done correctly and better, it could of continued the series on with Jason now on “Earth 2″ the killing would of started all over again on a new planet with uber jason lol, who really knows, Hollywood makes a lot of mistakes which we have to deal with, sucks.

By: baz

baz — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 12:12:36 +0000

I think it was ok but not great.I think that New Line thought that the traditional F13 romp had turned stale and therefore felt they had to try new ideas for Jason.Jumping from body to body in J.G.T.H and then going all sci-fi in space for J-X.Whereas i think there was no need for these outlandish ideas as unlike the 80’s the New Line movies were released with a good number of years between them meaning that they could have stayed to the tried and tested formula of stalk ‘n’ slash in the woods of Crystal Lake without the whole thing feeling “stale” and done to death.Jason X was a movie that could have been better but seems nowadays the production companies know that there is such a rabid fan base for Jason that they can make whatever they want and we’ll still flock to see it because basically we’re just grateful that they are keeping the franchise alive and that’s just sad and wrong.Now we are onto a whole new playing field for Jason with the words that all horror fans dread to hear….REMAKE.However saying that i thought the reboot was the best F13 entry since the glory days of the 80’s and was a step in the right direction.Derek Mears is an awesome Jason but the actual “camp” setting for Camp Crystal Lake could use a little work for traditionalists sakes.I hope this gets taken on board for the impending sequel as for the first time in a long while i actually have high(ish) hopes……………KI,KI,KI,MA,MA,MA.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 06:09:34 +0000

Make a difference? Are you fucking kidding me? Jason X is one of the worst movies ever made! Who gives a fuck! I am a Friday fan, too! This movie was garbage, plain and simple. Yeah, let’s crack fucking jokes when we are about to die…”It’s going to take more than a poke in the ribs to keep this old dog down.” WHAM!…”Yep, that did it.” How could anyone who worked on this film be proud? They should’ve stopped at The Final Chapter, period. Who gives a shit about a huge body count, who gives a shit that Jason looks cool in X, who gives a shit that it is ‘different’. This film is a fucking joke! You know how this film should’ve been released…Free T.V. on the fucking Sci-Fi channel. You ever watch those original feature films that are crap on that channel? Yeah, that’s where Jason X belongs.

By: jedijunkie

jedijunkie — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 06:09:09 +0000

I think Jason X was not a good film, I did not mind Jason Goes to Hell, although I thought the theory of a demon jumping from one body to another to keep Jason going was far fetched, I did not like the mask in Jason X, I thought it was the worst mask I have ever seen, and putting Jason into space was another story line that sucked. I watched the film again just to watch it but I felt my IQ had dropped from just sitting there and watching it it was so bad, when and if Platinum Dunes gets the green light for the sequel I hope they make it good, I liked what they did with the film and I hope they do not pull a Rob Zombie like what happened with H2.

By: f13ticket

f13ticket — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 05:30:11 +0000

I think that it had a significant push on the film. It would have been better to release it back in 2024 as it would have spaced the films out better and given less time for the film and surprises to leak out.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 04:44:45 +0000

*good idea

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Sat, 27 Feb 2024 04:43:56 +0000

Anytime you go into space with a movie franchise, it’s never a food idea Critters 4 for example!