Indeed, and that Continunity and logical flub is also brought up in the awesome ‘04 boxset cast reunion commentary track (about him not having the same clothes from around when Part 2 was supposed to take place that it was even before that time) form the standard definition DVD boxset. But also in the Crystal Lake Memories book, the first writer on the film that completely re-wrote it uncredited (because him & his agent saw the first screening of it and his agent basically bullied him into taking his name of the final print credits, by the way) was a Romanian-born writer named Petru Popescu. In his re-written drafts he REALLY pushed for a bit more of a backstory for good ole’ Jason, including some much hinted at sexual awakenings.

He basically wanted to hint that Chris–two years ago as of that time–would have survived an attempted assault/rape at the hands of Crystal Lake county’s own Mr. Voorhees. But the original husband & wife writing due team of Martin Kitrosser (who’s been an uncredited and also credited writer and script supervisor of the first five installments since day one) and Carol Watson basically re-wrote a lot of that out over time on set. Coupled with the Mormon-beleifs of Ms. Dana Kimmel (and no, as we all know those are her own personal beleifs and I am NOT knocking them being a personal of faith myself) she requested Steve Miner to please take out some sexual this & that, basically very little of that was left intact on the final finished film that debuted in August of ‘82.

Basically only the now infamous “flashback two years ago” sequence that hints at much more of a violent & sexualized sexual assault, instead of the usual “stalk ‘n slash” elements that the original Paramount side of the series is known for, was left in tact. So thats why it all ends up so oddball (just as the accidentally screwed up ending form Miner’s Part 2 as well). But reading the book, you can tell the uncredited Romanian writer was a bit displeased that he was only allowed to go so deep with the usual cardboard thin early ’80s original Slasher film craze characters. If anyone else has the book, turn to the 3rd chapter. It’s all there to read.

Thats also my WTf thing of the series.Theres no way she got away from Jason,shes was on the ground kicking and screaming.Then she wakes up her bed and her parents dont even bring it up? its before part 2 took place and hes maskless and without the overalls-

2. I believe that Jason has always been supernatural. I believe that at some point when he died he was able to become the full manifestation of his vengenance or the lakes death curse. And whenever he is seen in the films…especially in NY as a child then this is his true form.

I know that there obviously is things in the series that doesn’t add up like Jason looking like a red-headed redneck in 2 and then a beast in 3. But I think that is what adds to the mystery and appeal of the Lakes death curse and the films. Don’t know if I am the only one who feels this way, but wanted to give my little opinion.

@ madmaxx, the random head in the planter was Eddie’s (you know, Star Mummy!)

lol, if i got into picking out goofs and “huh?” moments from other horror movies, or hell, just other movies in general, we would be here a very long long long long long long long long long time, etc. :)

but yeah, i have always been bothered by the whole throwing bodies thru the windows and what not. to pick up a 180-200 lbs person is one thing, to throw them thru the window with the force that they do is another. same with the body up in the tree in the original. old mrs voorhees must of had the strength of 10 men, maybe she was wearing her Hercules ring? lol

but how about when they are talking about Jason in part 6, saying that he is a legend and its only stories. wouldn’t it be documented? a mad man kills 30+ people in a sleepy little community, plus throw his mother in there as well as having 10+ kills. also, Megan, who tells the story of Jason to the others, would have been a kid when all this was going on, i think that she would have somekind of first hand knowledge of the events that just happened down the street, lol.

but one of my biggest complaints was, how come they never recovered the body of Jason after part 6? why did the police just leave him down in the water chained to the bottom? and how stupid of an ending could you get? all Jason had to do was to pull himself down on the chain a bit to create slack around his neck and take the chain off.

and why the fuck did it take till part 9 to get the FBI involved with this? they would have been swarming the scene after part 2, cause crystal lake probably has a police force of 3 cops with 1 gun between them. and if they are anything like Officer Dorff from part 1, no wonder it took them so long to catch Jason.

also in Jason X, they mention all the ways they tried to execute Jason and failed. how come they never cut his head off? it did in The Kurgan ;) , and lets see Jason’s regeneration skills fix that one.

also, in part 8, why does this guy have a hockey mask on his boat with a fake knife? easy, to try and scare his girlfriend. but the question is, why is there an axe cut in the mask? she doesn’t know what Jason looked like and i highly doubt that he did either, only heard it thru “legend of Jason stories”. lol, he is the biggest fucking killer in the history of man, and he is only a legend. i guess when i’m 80 years old and have a grandson sitting on my knee i will tell him about the legend of Ted Bundy, they say he killed 32 women, possibly more, we will never know, cause his story is only a legend. but grandpa, i read about him on the internet and seen him on the biography channel, he was real. shut up kid, he was a legend, just a story and we are keeping it that way. lol, how the fuck did i ramble off on that one? :)

But truely, thanks!

Anyway concerning the raft bit: Since I am honestly no expert on inflatable rafts, I guess I’ll have to more or less accept that your actually right on that one, since I’m more of a regular boat person when I went camping a lot more near cabins during my youth. And I NEVER went rafting or inner-tubing down a large river or lake. I was always too much afraid of any water logged snakes biting me or being finned by the fish more easily if I stuck my feet in the water. So I more or less remained on a family Pontoon Boat where we barbequed on. Heh heh.

But thanks for that lesson. But if your right now then I believe we might have to actually change a small part of the “Goofs” section for Part IV here this very website, since I believe the raft not sinking in The Final Chapter is still listed as part of it’s official goofs. So I guess for a change the film makers of this legendary inept from installment-to-installment series were right! :D

And as well: The sequences of Jason bursting through the door in The Final Chapter as well as Roy Burns (our now infamous Pseudo-Jason imposter) in Part V bursting through a quite obviously fake and much more thin balsa-wood door (which indeed appears to explode) is hysterically lame. It’s so obviously loaded with movie Squibs that are rigged to explode. And I’ve also had a problem with bodies being propelled through the windows in the series.

Including the later half of Part 1. It’s also unclear if Brenda’s over all body weight pressed against the glass and made it break, or if she was thrown (which seem’s highly unlikely given Mrs. Voorhees stature). So I never really understood or “got” that scene. Even though in Part 3 with Rick it’s still unbelieveable as well, but at least Jason was shown to have the ridiculous strength to crush a man’s skull until his eyeballs cock right out of they’re sockets. Factor in that he is shown picking up Chili’s body with no ease and moving Debbie later on as well so I don’t really mind that one as much, as ridiculous as it is.

But Roy Burns doing it to the Grandpa on staff Cheif cook in Part V is also unforgiveable. If he is indeed an average flesh & blood man that can be killed such as he is at the end of the film, then I don’t buy he can move as stealthy as Jason does to kill Tina & Violet (in her own teeny-tiny room no less!) and to propel bodies through the air as Jason does in Parts 3 and IV (with Rob Dier).

Even more hysterical–switching franchises/series brielf for a moment–is in the original Halloween II (1981) from Rick Rosenthal. Note the hysterically lame sequence when The Shape breaks a large front entrance window/door entrance with walking that slow. He must be one powerful son of a cock suckin’ bitch to do that, as I’m sure we’ve all (through general human neglance of our minds talking to someone else and being on shopping and social interaction among other things) accidentally walked into a door’s glass part, and I’m sure it hurt like a son of a butch. Plus he wasn’t cut all to hell as any normal, sane person would be, so I guess he really was virtually industructable to everything but a large explosion & being engulfed in flames moments later is what (in Carpenter & Hill’s mind) were the only things that chould destroy him.

But even lamer and funnier to me around the same time in that particular sequel is that Laurie shoots him at point-blank range with a large 357 Magnum revolver given to her by Dr. Loomis, and it only “blinds” him … as opposed to blowing his fuckin’ brains out the back of his head, as it should have. *lmao* Just a thought. ;)