Comments on: Friday Conversation: The State of Reboots And Their Sequels http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/ News & Updates for fridaythe13thfilms.com Fri, 10 Dec 2024 23:06:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ian http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-300692 Ian Thu, 02 Dec 2024 21:47:47 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-300692 The answer? Whatever brings in the cash. Sure, they want to deliver a good product, but it all depends on efficiency and the payoff. As for specifics, they should've at least finished Freddy and Jason's respective series' before moving onto the reboot. But, they pretty much threw fans' wants and storyline aside for the cashmaker. Don't get me wrong, it's probably harder for a new generation to jump on the Friday the 13th series with so many obscure sequels, but they should've at least finished what was established in the latest movie, Freddy Vs. Jason, which is still fairly recent, first. A series like Texas Chainsaw Massacre was pretty much dead, and it was actually a much better idea to go for the reboot in that instance to differentiate itself from some of the previous, lackluster movies. And now, they're making a sequel to the original. I really don't know what to say to that, but I'll give it a chance. And, from what someone else said, it's funny that Warrington Gillette is almost the perfect age to play Jason now, considering he was a lot younger playing Jason in 1981, when they really didn't know what to do with him at that point. Ari Lehman probably could act a good Jason, but do you think he's got the intimidation factor? The answer? Whatever brings in the cash. Sure, they want to deliver a good product, but it all depends on efficiency and the payoff.

As for specifics, they should’ve at least finished Freddy and Jason’s respective series’ before moving onto the reboot. But, they pretty much threw fans’ wants and storyline aside for the cashmaker. Don’t get me wrong, it’s probably harder for a new generation to jump on the Friday the 13th series with so many obscure sequels, but they should’ve at least finished what was established in the latest movie, Freddy Vs. Jason, which is still fairly recent, first.
A series like Texas Chainsaw Massacre was pretty much dead, and it was actually a much better idea to go for the reboot in that instance to differentiate itself from some of the previous, lackluster movies. And now, they’re making a sequel to the original. I really don’t know what to say to that, but I’ll give it a chance.

And, from what someone else said, it’s funny that Warrington Gillette is almost the perfect age to play Jason now, considering he was a lot younger playing Jason in 1981, when they really didn’t know what to do with him at that point. Ari Lehman probably could act a good Jason, but do you think he’s got the intimidation factor?

]]> By: Innocent Bystander http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-300417 Innocent Bystander Thu, 02 Dec 2024 06:22:58 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-300417 They should make the sequel as close to the spirit of the original films as possible. Ari Lehman and Warrington Gillette are still young enough to have the stamina to pull off the part of Jason. They should be considered for the role in a sequel. They should make the sequel as close to the spirit of the original films as possible. Ari Lehman and Warrington Gillette are still young enough to have the stamina to pull off the part of Jason. They should be considered for the role in a sequel.

]]> By: stigma http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-275712 stigma Fri, 08 Oct 2024 20:44:03 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-275712 Robert Englund was never approached by PD for the role of Freddy Krueger, they just didn't wanna use him. Robert said himself he would have been happy to portray Fred if asked.. But, yeah we do need a Friday the 13th pt 13. I really do hope Sean Cunningham could have gotten back the rights, so we would have had a proper movie. A Friday part 13 IMHO should include closure on Tommy Jarvis(portrayed by Corey Feldman), an apperance by Elias Voorhees, a score by Harry Manfredini and the long discussed winter-setting. Jason on a frozen Crystal Lake would have been EPIC. And personally, I want Kane Hodder back! ;) Robert Englund was never approached by PD for the role of Freddy Krueger, they just didn’t wanna use him. Robert said himself he would have been happy to portray Fred if asked..

But, yeah we do need a Friday the 13th pt 13. I really do hope Sean Cunningham could have gotten back the rights, so we would have had a proper movie.

A Friday part 13 IMHO should include closure on Tommy Jarvis(portrayed by Corey Feldman), an apperance by Elias Voorhees, a score by Harry Manfredini and the long discussed winter-setting. Jason on a frozen Crystal Lake would have been EPIC. And personally, I want Kane Hodder back! ;)

]]> By: c_s_a78 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-273524 c_s_a78 Sat, 02 Oct 2024 01:35:32 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-273524 when are they gana do a a back story to jason as a kid!?! when are they gana do a a back story to jason as a kid!?!

]]> By: f13ticket http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-273165 f13ticket Fri, 01 Oct 2024 04:05:26 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-273165 I had boycotted watching the New Elm Street for many reasons, key among them was this concept that it was a re-make and that it had in some intrinsic way had re-constructed the very character of Freddy in a way I thought was wrong. I apologize because, gladly, I was wrong. While this is the angle some of the advertising and perhaps early released scripts might have taken and or hinted at; this is not what the film ended up as. I love Elm Street and Freddy, enjoyed the new film very much, and hope, as always, to see more. I had boycotted watching the New Elm Street for many reasons, key among them was this concept that it was a re-make and that it had in some intrinsic way had re-constructed the very character of Freddy in a way I thought was wrong. I apologize because, gladly, I was wrong. While this is the angle some of the advertising and perhaps early released scripts might have taken and or hinted at; this is not what the film ended up as. I love Elm Street and Freddy, enjoyed the new film very much, and hope, as always, to see more.

]]> By: Mark http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-272640 Mark Wed, 29 Sep 2024 18:59:25 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-272640 I think Sean Cunningham mentioned one time back around 1986, when Part 6 came out, that there would be 13 films in the series. Seeing as the next Friday movie would be the 13th in the series, it would make sense that it would be the last one. Releasing it in 2024 would be a good marketing tool too although I'd like to see one sooner. My only hope is that they return to the old school vibe of the first 4 films and for heavens sake, bring back Manfredini's score!!! The reboot would have been a whole lot better if they included this IMO. It was a stab in the right direction but didn't quite hit the mark. I think Sean Cunningham mentioned one time back around 1986, when Part 6 came out, that there would be 13 films in the series. Seeing as the next Friday movie would be the 13th in the series, it would make sense that it would be the last one. Releasing it in 2024 would be a good marketing tool too although I’d like to see one sooner. My only hope is that they return to the old school vibe of the first 4 films and for heavens sake, bring back Manfredini’s score!!! The reboot would have been a whole lot better if they included this IMO. It was a stab in the right direction but didn’t quite hit the mark.

]]> By: thevengefulmachet http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271794 thevengefulmachet Mon, 27 Sep 2024 20:07:34 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271794 I agree, Jakie Earl Haley made for an excellantly creepy Freddy, just as Derek Mears made an effectively menacing Jason, but neither didn't have much to work with as far as scripts. In my opinion. I agree, Jakie Earl Haley made for an excellantly creepy Freddy, just as Derek Mears made an effectively menacing Jason, but neither didn’t have much to work with as far as scripts. In my opinion.

]]> By: digmadnes http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271712 digmadnes Mon, 27 Sep 2024 15:06:41 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271712 Just wanted to say that Robert did not want to play freddy again he has made that well known platinum did approach him he said no(too old for this now) where his words and he blessed Jackie for the role I had gripes with the noes reboot but Ill be honest I found freddy more creepy and better and yes i love robert and no one can replace him. Just wanted to say that Robert did not want to play freddy again he has made that well known platinum did approach him he said no(too old for this now) where his words and he blessed Jackie for the role I had gripes with the noes reboot but Ill be honest I found freddy more creepy and better and yes i love robert and no one can replace him.

]]> By: Cat http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271239 Cat Sun, 26 Sep 2024 16:27:07 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271239 Great topic to disscuss on!! I do worry that if no one buys the rights too the serious, they will just drop f13 because its too much like hard work to sort out and worry about when you have other franchises and ideas all ready bought. Great topic to disscuss on!!
I do worry that if no one buys the rights too the serious, they will just drop f13 because its too much like hard work to sort out and worry about when you have other franchises and ideas all ready bought.

]]> By: thevengefulmachete http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271228 thevengefulmachete Sun, 26 Sep 2024 15:54:00 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271228 Money money money. What we value as entertainment is simply dollar signs to the big shots in charge. Remakes are the trend now which is why we're seeing them in every genre. When they run out of movies to reboot, they turn to old tv shows for movies. Because the almighty dollar is at stake, they rush into these things. They don't sit down and really drum out a solid story, they just throw stuff together because the hype is enough to get us in theatre seats. That clealrly was the case for the friday and nightmare reboots-in my opinion. Platinum Dunes is smart knowing if you film it, they will come, no matter how shitty it is. I've talked to people who felt friday was rushed. The movie itself couldn't wait to throw jason at you. I've talked to others who felt the new nightmare reboot was just as rushed. This is to be expected. I've learned to set my expectations low(er) so I'm not too terribly disappointed. The only films I can really say were decent are the TCM reboot and even Rob's Halloween had some depth-even if it was (my opinion) the wrong direction to take Michael Myers. I thought The Hills Have Eyes reboot was pretty decent. The trend and the rush to keep up with it and make some money is what tarnished friday and nightmare. Rob Zombie screwed Halloween up himself. He is a property too. Dimension gave him the keys to it. Too many hollywood buerecrats were involved with friday and nightmare. Money money money. What we value as entertainment is simply dollar signs to the big shots in charge. Remakes are the trend now which is why we’re seeing them in every genre. When they run out of movies to reboot, they turn to old tv shows for movies. Because the almighty dollar is at stake, they rush into these things. They don’t sit down and really drum out a solid story, they just throw stuff together because the hype is enough to get us in theatre seats. That clealrly was the case for the friday and nightmare reboots-in my opinion. Platinum Dunes is smart knowing if you film it, they will come, no matter how shitty it is. I’ve talked to people who felt friday was rushed. The movie itself couldn’t wait to throw jason at you. I’ve talked to others who felt the new nightmare reboot was just as rushed. This is to be expected. I’ve learned to set my expectations low(er) so I’m not too terribly disappointed. The only films I can really say were decent are the TCM reboot and even Rob’s Halloween had some depth-even if it was (my opinion) the wrong direction to take Michael Myers. I thought The Hills Have Eyes reboot was pretty decent. The trend and the rush to keep up with it and make some money is what tarnished friday and nightmare. Rob Zombie screwed Halloween up himself. He is a property too. Dimension gave him the keys to it. Too many hollywood buerecrats were involved with friday and nightmare.

]]> By: Thomas Trofholz http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271062 Thomas Trofholz Sun, 26 Sep 2024 04:59:50 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271062 Oh and one more thing I really want the remaining 7 sequels on blu-ray. Maybe if a sequel gets put out, the blus will be put out as well. A man can hope right!!! Oh and one more thing I really want the remaining 7 sequels on blu-ray. Maybe if a sequel gets put out, the blus will be put out as well. A man can hope right!!!

]]> By: Thomas Trofholz http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271057 Thomas Trofholz Sun, 26 Sep 2024 04:42:31 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271057 I wouldn't mind seeing a new Friday if it's done correctly that is. Maybe a winter Friday would be a fun new change. Now nightmare is a totally different story. Those sequels should stop NOW!!! I hated that Nightmare prequel. They basically took all the scares/kills from throughout the series and updated them. How ridiculous. Reboots are still just as prevalent as ever. I don't see that changing anytime soon. If Platinum Dunes has any brains, and that's a huge if, they should make the next story more character based and maybe not focus as much on graphic kills. If an even mix can be achieved, like in The Final Chapter, then they will have an awesome sequel on their hands. I wouldn't mind seeing some better actors cast in the next sequel either. Horror movies are in right now and I think if they looked at the Hollywood A-list, they might be surprised at who might be interested. I heard a rumor that Tarrantino wanted to direct a Friday, I think he should. Same can be said for Adam Green, just an awesome director with a bright future. Also as a side note I must be the only one on earth to have not liked any of the prequels Hollywood has put out over the last 10 years. Don't get me wrong some prequels are awesome or I think have the potential to be awesome. Of course I'm referring to John Carpenter's The Thing and Ridley Scott's new Alien films. Those Alien films should be awesome, only because they are being given a better treatment. How can you beat Ridley Scott as director. He's made some of my favorite movies of all time. Oh and one final thing, the Dawn remake was not as good as everyone says. I hate when directors have zombies run, that never made much sense to me to have zombies run. Now with infection movies I don't mind the running, but not on zombie movies. I wouldn’t mind seeing a new Friday if it’s done correctly that is. Maybe a winter Friday would be a fun new change. Now nightmare is a totally different story. Those sequels should stop NOW!!! I hated that Nightmare prequel. They basically took all the scares/kills from throughout the series and updated them. How ridiculous. Reboots are still just as prevalent as ever. I don’t see that changing anytime soon. If Platinum Dunes has any brains, and that’s a huge if, they should make the next story more character based and maybe not focus as much on graphic kills. If an even mix can be achieved, like in The Final Chapter, then they will have an awesome sequel on their hands. I wouldn’t mind seeing some better actors cast in the next sequel either. Horror movies are in right now and I think if they looked at the Hollywood A-list, they might be surprised at who might be interested. I heard a rumor that Tarrantino wanted to direct a Friday, I think he should. Same can be said for Adam Green, just an awesome director with a bright future.

Also as a side note I must be the only one on earth to have not liked any of the prequels Hollywood has put out over the last 10 years. Don’t get me wrong some prequels are awesome or I think have the potential to be awesome. Of course I’m referring to John Carpenter’s The Thing and Ridley Scott’s new Alien films. Those Alien films should be awesome, only because they are being given a better treatment. How can you beat Ridley Scott as director. He’s made some of my favorite movies of all time. Oh and one final thing, the Dawn remake was not as good as everyone says. I hate when directors have zombies run, that never made much sense to me to have zombies run. Now with infection movies I don’t mind the running, but not on zombie movies.

]]> By: Justin http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271048 Justin Sun, 26 Sep 2024 04:03:21 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271048 Also I remember seeing a video of Platinum Dunes begging for respect because they're bringing back our favorite horror characters to the big screen. *rolls eyes* That's like asking a teacher for an A just because you showed up to class. Also I remember seeing a video of Platinum Dunes begging for respect because they’re bringing back our favorite horror characters to the big screen. *rolls eyes*

That’s like asking a teacher for an A just because you showed up to class.

]]> By: Justin http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-271046 Justin Sun, 26 Sep 2024 04:01:17 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-271046 If Platinum Dunes is involved, I have no interest in seeing a sequel. Sure the sequel was entertaining, but that doesn't mean it was worthwhile. It was still a huge disappointment. Fuller and Form hyped it up as some new movie that was going to be really dark and the comic con and teaser trailer for it looked amazing. The final product ended up being a parody of the worst parts of the franchise(I.E. annoying cannon fodder, cliche situations). The kills weren't even that great and most of them were the same. It also didn't feel like a Friday film because it lacked the atmosphere and score that made the films great. Platinum Dunes has proved to us that they know nothing about horror. They're just in the business to make money and that's it. They never try anything original. They just cash in on successful classics. It's not like they try to improve on the originals either. Remakes/Reimaginings should either to try improve on the originals or at least live up to the standards. Platinum Dunes movies are doing neither. If Platinum Dunes is involved, I have no interest in seeing a sequel. Sure the sequel was entertaining, but that doesn’t mean it was worthwhile. It was still a huge disappointment. Fuller and Form hyped it up as some new movie that was going to be really dark and the comic con and teaser trailer for it looked amazing. The final product ended up being a parody of the worst parts of the franchise(I.E. annoying cannon fodder, cliche situations). The kills weren’t even that great and most of them were the same. It also didn’t feel like a Friday film because it lacked the atmosphere and score that made the films great.

Platinum Dunes has proved to us that they know nothing about horror. They’re just in the business to make money and that’s it. They never try anything original. They just cash in on successful classics. It’s not like they try to improve on the originals either. Remakes/Reimaginings should either to try improve on the originals or at least live up to the standards. Platinum Dunes movies are doing neither.

]]> By: Corey http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-the-state-of-reboots-and-their-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-270941 Corey Sat, 25 Sep 2024 22:13:24 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=12505#comment-270941 I wonder if it deliberately chosen to remake the franchise(s) in order as they originally came out from the start. '74 TCM then '78 Halloween then '80 Friday and finally '84 ANOES...they returned in the same sequence as well. To me; TCM '03 SUCKS! it will NEVER hold up to the original torture cult classic that bred Leatherface into our daily lives. RZ Halloween also pretty lame...He damn near copied Jason in his physical mass, but I guess "Friday" did mimic the Halloween formula. Then comes "Friday 2024" It was awesomely good- not just because of him being my fav. either. "Nightmare" '10 was also decent...enough for me to see it 2ce and even rip a torrent. Let's just hope the sequals due in time hold up as well... I wonder if it deliberately chosen to remake the franchise(s) in order as they originally came out from the start. ‘74 TCM then ‘78 Halloween then ‘80 Friday and finally ‘84 ANOES…they returned in the same sequence as well. To me; TCM ‘03 SUCKS! it will NEVER hold up to the original torture cult classic that bred Leatherface into our daily lives. RZ Halloween also pretty lame…He damn near copied Jason in his physical mass, but I guess “Friday” did mimic the Halloween formula. Then comes “Friday 2024″ It was awesomely good- not just because of him being my fav. either. “Nightmare” ‘10 was also decent…enough for me to see it 2ce and even rip a torrent. Let’s just hope the sequals due in time hold up as well…

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