Comments on: Friday Conversation: Trilogies Within The Franchise http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/ Nothing This Evil Ever Dies... Sun, 19 Jun 2024 18:59:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Andrea http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-314959 Andrea Thu, 30 Dec 2024 23:42:03 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-314959 I agree that the Tommy Jarvis trilogy is the best of the series. The character is also strong in that, not only does his story unfold well, but there is a happy ending for him (assumed anyway). We have to assume that he ends up with Megan...that they ran away together! This is very much unlike the story of Laurie Strode, where she lost her mind as an adult and dies in the worst way. Tommy saves his sisters life, recovers his sanity...and kills his demons once and for all. Like I said b4, I like to assume that his character ran away with Megan...which is why he was never heard from again. Her character in part VI was strong...something he would need to fight off the demons and give up his obsessive thinking about Jason...being able to move away and leave it all behind. I agree that the Tommy Jarvis trilogy is the best of the series. The character is also strong in that, not only does his story unfold well, but there is a happy ending for him (assumed anyway). We have to assume that he ends up with Megan…that they ran away together! This is very much unlike the story of Laurie Strode, where she lost her mind as an adult and dies in the worst way. Tommy saves his sisters life, recovers his sanity…and kills his demons once and for all. Like I said b4, I like to assume that his character ran away with Megan…which is why he was never heard from again. Her character in part VI was strong…something he would need to fight off the demons and give up his obsessive thinking about Jason…being able to move away and leave it all behind.

]]> By: Andrea http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-314958 Andrea Thu, 30 Dec 2024 23:39:23 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-314958 I agree thatthe Tommy Jarvis trilogy is the best of the series. The character is also strong in that, not only does his sotry unfold well, but there is a happy ending for him (assumed anyway). We have to assume that he ends up with Megan...that they ran away together! This is very much unlike the story of Laurie Strode, where she lost her mind as an adult and dies in the worst way. Tommy saves his sisters life, recovers his sanity...and kills his demons once and for all. Like I said b4, I like to assume that his character ran away with Megan...which is why he was never heard from again. Her character in part VI was strong...something he would need to fight off the demons and lose give up his obsessive thinking about Jason...being able to move away and leave it all behind. I agree thatthe Tommy Jarvis trilogy is the best of the series. The character is also strong in that, not only does his sotry unfold well, but there is a happy ending for him (assumed anyway). We have to assume that he ends up with Megan…that they ran away together! This is very much unlike the story of Laurie Strode, where she lost her mind as an adult and dies in the worst way. Tommy saves his sisters life, recovers his sanity…and kills his demons once and for all. Like I said b4, I like to assume that his character ran away with Megan…which is why he was never heard from again. Her character in part VI was strong…something he would need to fight off the demons and lose give up his obsessive thinking about Jason…being able to move away and leave it all behind.

]]> By: Innocent Bystander http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-302651 Innocent Bystander Tue, 07 Dec 2024 04:27:20 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-302651 Don't forget the "Zombie Jason Trilogy" between Parts VI - VIII. I love how the whole thing draws to a conclusion in the NYC gutters. Nice touch, Paramount! Don’t forget the “Zombie Jason Trilogy” between Parts VI – VIII. I love how the whole thing draws to a conclusion in the NYC gutters. Nice touch, Paramount!

]]> By: Sybren van der Schoot http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301916 Sybren van der Schoot Sun, 05 Dec 2024 13:39:02 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301916 I'm into the Tommy Jarvis trilogy...it's also a growing-experience...part 4 has Tommy being a kid having Jason as enemy and finally killing him, then in part 5 Tommy is a teenager who is suffering from his encounter with Jason..and eventhough part 6 tried to forget the predecessor, Tommy is a grown guy and batteling Jason once more...it's a bit like what Captain Subtexkt wrote..Tommy Jarvis is kind of like the Laurie Strode for the Friday franchise...and it's more interesting to have a cast thats getting killed by the serial killer, than having alot of background from the killer himself ( although I think Jason is a 'real' character) I'm just amazed that we are having these kinds of conversations about a movie-character(s)...it's really something special, and just want to say ( again) that i'm very happy to have discovered this website with all kinds of info about my favorite horrormovie franchise...great work guys! I’m into the Tommy Jarvis trilogy…it’s also a growing-experience…part 4 has Tommy being a kid having Jason as enemy and finally killing him, then in part 5 Tommy is a teenager who is suffering from his encounter with Jason..and eventhough part 6 tried to forget the predecessor, Tommy is a grown guy and batteling Jason once more…it’s a bit like what Captain Subtexkt wrote..Tommy Jarvis is kind of like the Laurie Strode for the Friday franchise…and it’s more interesting to have a cast thats getting killed by the serial killer, than having alot of background from the killer himself ( although I think Jason is a ‘real’ character)

I’m just amazed that we are having these kinds of conversations about a movie-character(s)…it’s really something special, and just want to say ( again) that i’m very happy to have discovered this website with all kinds of info about my favorite horrormovie franchise…great work guys!

]]> By: Ian http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301532 Ian Sat, 04 Dec 2024 19:12:32 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301532 I disagree with this a little bit. Though I see your point by making connections through a central character, some movies are closer to others in just story terms. Like the original Friday the 13th and Friday the 13th Part II. They're both VERY similar, carry over with the conclusion to the last surviving character, make a connection to last movie's killer (specifically as the motive), and tell the true story of Jason. Part 4 - 5 are pretty close, and it works well storywise with a sequel, but part 6 definately doesn't belong. Sure, Tommy is brought back, but there's virtually no other connective tissue, since it's virtually a sequel to Part 4. That being said, my favorite is the original Jason saga; Part 2 introduces an intersting plot twist to the series, Part 3 follows Jason's revenge, but Part 4 makes things interesting again with Jason's supposed last stand. I disagree with this a little bit. Though I see your point by making connections through a central character, some movies are closer to others in just story terms. Like the original Friday the 13th and Friday the 13th Part II. They’re both VERY similar, carry over with the conclusion to the last surviving character, make a connection to last movie’s killer (specifically as the motive), and tell the true story of Jason. Part 4 – 5 are pretty close, and it works well storywise with a sequel, but part 6 definately doesn’t belong. Sure, Tommy is brought back, but there’s virtually no other connective tissue, since it’s virtually a sequel to Part 4.
That being said, my favorite is the original Jason saga; Part 2 introduces an intersting plot twist to the series, Part 3 follows Jason’s revenge, but Part 4 makes things interesting again with Jason’s supposed last stand.

]]> By: DrJohnMan http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301365 DrJohnMan Sat, 04 Dec 2024 08:46:52 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301365 The Tommy Jarvis vs Laurie Strode trilogy's. This is a tough one to look at because Halloween 1 and 2 are fantastic films. (especially 1... maybe the greatest "slasher" movie of all time) While the movies overall were prolly better in the Laurie Strode trilogy (H20 wasn't great... but it was good to see Laurie get her revenge) I though Tommy's story was MUCH better than Lauries. It really had the potential to be much better if the writers went more in depth... but even with what we say, I enjoy Tommy more than Laurie. Laurie basically disappeared and went into hiding after Halloween 2. Though she had nightmares and struggled with aspects of her past, she was still have to live a somewhat normal life of dating, teaching at a nice school, and even raising a child. Tommy had none of that. Facing Jason, and having him murder his mother, really screwed him up. The result of that terrible night in Friday4 really sent him down spiraling into a darkside. Over the next... possible 20 years of growing up, he had to fight and climb out of that before having his ultimate victory. So... Ultimately I believe Tommy to be a much better character than Laurie Strode. Laure did have a few advantages over Tommy... 1) John Carpenters involvement with H1 and H2. 2) The fact that Jamie Lee Curtis is the only person to play Laurie is a great fact also. Still, Tommys story is better in my book. The Tommy Jarvis vs Laurie Strode trilogy’s.

This is a tough one to look at because Halloween 1 and 2 are fantastic films. (especially 1… maybe the greatest “slasher” movie of all time)

While the movies overall were prolly better in the Laurie Strode trilogy (H20 wasn’t great… but it was good to see Laurie get her revenge) I though Tommy’s story was MUCH better than Lauries. It really had the potential to be much better if the writers went more in depth… but even with what we say, I enjoy Tommy more than Laurie.

Laurie basically disappeared and went into hiding after Halloween 2. Though she had nightmares and struggled with aspects of her past, she was still have to live a somewhat normal life of dating, teaching at a nice school, and even raising a child.

Tommy had none of that. Facing Jason, and having him murder his mother, really screwed him up. The result of that terrible night in Friday4 really sent him down spiraling into a darkside. Over the next… possible 20 years of growing up, he had to fight and climb out of that before having his ultimate victory.

So… Ultimately I believe Tommy to be a much better character than Laurie Strode.

Laure did have a few advantages over Tommy… 1) John Carpenters involvement with H1 and H2. 2) The fact that Jamie Lee Curtis is the only person to play Laurie is a great fact also.

Still, Tommys story is better in my book.

]]> By: DrJohnMan http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301361 DrJohnMan Sat, 04 Dec 2024 08:37:50 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301361 The first trilogy seems to be about the final days of mass murderer Jason Voorhees and his desire to really go out with a bang. The second trilogy is about a survivor from Jason's last days... and his story of overcoming the darkness that Jason orginally placed within his soul. Who says Friday the 13th DOESN'T have a story? lol The first trilogy seems to be about the final days of mass murderer Jason Voorhees and his desire to really go out with a bang.

The second trilogy is about a survivor from Jason’s last days… and his story of overcoming the darkness that Jason orginally placed within his soul.

Who says Friday the 13th DOESN’T have a story? lol

]]> By: DrJohnMan http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301358 DrJohnMan Sat, 04 Dec 2024 08:35:22 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301358 In terms of storytelling, it is the Tommy Jarvis trilogy. I absolutely love this because we are watching a person's life unfold... which is a fantastic way of telling a story. I love so many of the Friday movies... but I believe it was the story of Tommy Jarvis, which made Friday the 13th my favorite series of films. His story added depth... and made this whole thing more than just a slasher film He was a man tormented by a serial killer in his youth... and as he grew, he faced not only the dark shadows that the killer left within his soul, but a copycat killer... and the orginal killer back from the dead. (making this go from a serial killer to a monster movie) To me, the Tommy Jarvis arc is fantastic. He should always be what Vans Helsing is to Dracula. If/when any more Friday films are made, his story can add a lot of depth to those films. Which i like... Now, if only New Line didn't kill of Nancy in Elm Street 3.... I still believe that one of the reasons certain films like Friday, Elm Street, Halloween, etc... become big, is not only for the bad guy/murderer/monster, but the people who really stand up against them.... In terms of storytelling, it is the Tommy Jarvis trilogy. I absolutely love this because we are watching a person’s life unfold… which is a fantastic way of telling a story. I love so many of the Friday movies… but I believe it was the story of Tommy Jarvis, which made Friday the 13th my favorite series of films. His story added depth… and made this whole thing more than just a slasher film He was a man tormented by a serial killer in his youth… and as he grew, he faced not only the dark shadows that the killer left within his soul, but a copycat killer… and the orginal killer back from the dead. (making this go from a serial killer to a monster movie) To me, the Tommy Jarvis arc is fantastic. He should always be what Vans Helsing is to Dracula. If/when any more Friday films are made, his story can add a lot of depth to those films. Which i like…

Now, if only New Line didn’t kill of Nancy in Elm Street 3….

I still believe that one of the reasons certain films like Friday, Elm Street, Halloween, etc… become big, is not only for the bad guy/murderer/monster, but the people who really stand up against them….

]]> By: francisco http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301263 francisco Sat, 04 Dec 2024 01:14:18 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301263 I like both trilogies for different reasons, but I prefer the trilogy beginning with pt. 2. I've always looked at the series in this particular aspect: fist the original first 3 films, then the Tommy Jarvis films (4,5,& 6) and finally the late 80's Kane Hodder's Jason movies (part 7 & 8). But I appreciate the Tommy Jarvis trilogy because there are not a lot of characters that we followed throught the films other than Tommy Jarvis, making Tommy Jason's real nemesis. So Tommy Jarvis is to Jason what Laurie Strode is to Michael Myers and what Nancy Thompson is to Freddy Krueger in other words. I like both trilogies for different reasons, but I prefer the trilogy beginning with pt. 2. I’ve always looked at the series in this particular aspect: fist the original first 3 films, then the Tommy Jarvis films (4,5,& 6) and finally the late 80′s Kane Hodder’s Jason movies (part 7 & 8). But I appreciate the Tommy Jarvis trilogy because there are not a lot of characters that we followed throught the films other than Tommy Jarvis, making Tommy Jason’s real nemesis. So Tommy Jarvis is to Jason what Laurie Strode is to Michael Myers and what Nancy Thompson is to Freddy Krueger in other words.

]]> By: JB Demented http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-conversation-trilogies-within-the-franchise/comment-page-1/#comment-301123 JB Demented Fri, 03 Dec 2024 19:41:12 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=13772#comment-301123 I guess I would say parts 2-4 is the best trilogy. Basically because the first 4 are the best installments of the series. It has Manfredinis best music, and some of the greatest kills Jason has ever done. But I also love the Tommy Jarvis trilogy. Its cool to see a reoccuring character return and yet live again. I would say Tommy is one of Jasons toughest opponents. Alice returned in part 2, but only to be killed off by Jason. I think She shouldve lived longer. Plus She didnt even see who was killing Her, it couldve been anyone as far as She knows. I guess You can say I love both trilogies for different reasons. The 2-4 trilogy is cool because its days apart from each other. Part 2 is the only installment We see sackhead Jason, He gets His hockey mask, and in 4 we get the FX of Tom Savini. But most importantly those 3 movies stuck to the formula that has become famous in the Jason movies. And part 4 has the scariest music Manfredini ever wrote. After that His music was good but not as chilling. The Tommy Jarvis trilogy is good because Tommy became Jasons arch enemy. In part 4 Tommy killed Jason in such brutal fashion, basically before that Jason never got it as bad. I like the story that follows Him into the next 2 films. Theres alot of good dialogue in parts 4-6. Especially 5 and 6, thats when they started adding humor and more plot to the series. The interaction of Tommy and Sherrif Garris is cool. They have a hate hate relationship, as for His daughter the exact opposite. And in 5, We see what Jason has done to Tommys mind. All those hallucinations, I really felt bad for the kid. The bottom line is that FT13th has alot of continuity throughout the series. One thing Ive always respected and love about the series. Yeah theres alot of bloopers, but hey thats half the fun pointing them out. I guess I would say parts 2-4 is the best trilogy. Basically because the first 4 are the best installments of the series. It has Manfredinis best music, and some of the greatest kills Jason has ever done. But I also love the Tommy Jarvis trilogy. Its cool to see a reoccuring character return and yet live again. I would say Tommy is one of Jasons toughest opponents. Alice returned in part 2, but only to be killed off by Jason. I think She shouldve lived longer. Plus She didnt even see who was killing Her, it couldve been anyone as far as She knows.

I guess You can say I love both trilogies for different reasons. The 2-4 trilogy is cool because its days apart from each other. Part 2 is the only installment We see sackhead Jason, He gets His hockey mask, and in 4 we get the FX of Tom Savini. But most importantly those 3 movies stuck to the formula that has become famous in the Jason movies. And part 4 has the scariest music Manfredini ever wrote. After that His music was good but not as chilling.

The Tommy Jarvis trilogy is good because Tommy became Jasons arch enemy. In part 4 Tommy killed Jason in such brutal fashion, basically before that Jason never got it as bad. I like the story that follows Him into the next 2 films. Theres alot of good dialogue in parts 4-6. Especially 5 and 6, thats when they started adding humor and more plot to the series. The interaction of Tommy and Sherrif Garris is cool. They have a hate hate relationship, as for His daughter the exact opposite. And in 5, We see what Jason has done to Tommys mind. All those hallucinations, I really felt bad for the kid.

The bottom line is that FT13th has alot of continuity throughout the series. One thing Ive always respected and love about the series. Yeah theres alot of bloopers, but hey thats half the fun pointing them out.

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