Jason Is Not A Fucking Weed Farmer
After getting a slew of emails I assumed were practical jokes I decided to investigate and sure enough, many folks out there are under the impression that New Jason is killing to protect his blunt. Jason & Silent Bob here we come? No way punk. Here’s the best summarization I’ve seen of this strange phenomenon:
I never truly got worried about our future until this week, when I saw no less than four reviews, some by well respected (for some reason) movie critics, who watched the new Friday the 13th and got the impression that Jason was a pot farmer and it was his weed that the kids were after.
Now, granted, this Jason is a little smarter and more cunning than the original series’ Jason, but a fucking pot farmer??? How goddamn dumb do you think the creators of this movie are? Even if that was ever an idea, I can guarantee someone else in the room would point out how fucking stupid it was.
But what really makes it sad/baffling/frustrating is that the ACTUAL pot farmer is a CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE!!! ONE THAT JASON FUCKING KILLS!!! Jesus christ, it’s the hillbilly guy who has the attic full of random shit (it looks like he robbed the walls of a TGIFridays up there), including a hockey mask, which Jason takes for himself after his potato sack is damaged. The guy even OFFERS TO SELL SOME OF HIS PRIZED WEED to Jared Padelecki’s character, if for no other reason than to make it PERFECTLY FUCKING CLEAR where the macguffin pot came from.
Do these people think Jason was working with this guy to sell pot? Or were they pot farmer rivals, which is why Jason killed him?
We live in a world where people, people that other people actually LISTEN TO, can’t even follow the plot of a goddamn Friday the 13th movie (one spearheaded by Michael Bay no less - hardly a go-to guy for intellectual cinema). That’s scarier than anything in the movie.
Source: BC’s Blog
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Seriously, that\’s what people are thinking? Sure, there\’s no justification as to why the weed is there, as you\’d expect pot growers to be slaughtered by Jason as well, but I don\’t think he\’s dealing in his spare time. It\’s hilarious the issues people have with the new Jason - he runs, he fires a bow and arrow, he has hair - my main beaf with the movie was hot crap the teenage characters were (both acting and dialogue). The pot wasn\’t really an issue.
Sorry, meant to say how crap the teens were, not ‘hot crap.’ My bad
But why doesn’t Jason kill the weed farmer in all these years before?
Sorry, I like the movie all in all but the script is very, very, very weak….
Ha, that was the same thought i got when Jason slaughtered this guy. It seemed like a really cheap explainatioin for the hockey mask.
The entire script is shite. So many plot holes and stupid characters. Just what they did with Jason was cool, he was more like a hunter, using cunning and strategy. But Mark Swift and Damian Shannon prove yet again they can’t write interesting characters and have to resort to cliches (even more than the slasher genre usually does). Fun but empty
Friday The 13Th - Dude Where’s My Machette?
Just kidding.
i can’t really believe this. are there people that beleive that jason is pot farmer?
i’m reading reviews that give to f13th 1 stars out of 5 just ’cause they always hated the friday franchise. i’m only sorry for people that read that shit before to go to see the movie.
Well, the farmhand states in the movie that he found the weed when Jared Padelecki’s character is talking to him. So he wasn’t growing it. But he does clearly state that someone has been stealing Kerosene which clearly signifies how Jason had been powering the camp when power was needed. The reason Jason killed the farmer? Plain and simple. Jason had not been caught stealing the Kerosene up until that point. When finally confronted, he did what came natural and he killed the guy. It had nothing to do with pot and it’s hilariously ridiculous to see so many people pointing that out.
Did someone actually say the script was weak? Are you kidding me??? It’s a “Friday the 13th” movie!!!
Jason kills cliches/stereotypes of people. There is your plot.
I am happy with it… since JASON KILLED CLICHED AND STEREOTYPED PEOPLE!
Exactly, Wings. And thank you, Tony Carroll, for pointing that out-seems to me like no script can make up for the weak comprehension skills I have seen evidenced in many reviews!
You know, I could go on a long rant about how certain folks must not remember the FRIDAY THE 13TH characters of yesteryear if they think the ones in this movie are uninteresting cliches, but why bother? If by now you haven’t figured out that Chewie and Lawrence are the Jimbo and Ted or Chuck and Chili of the new millennium, and if that fact doesn’t make you very happy with writers Swift and Shannon, then you simply aren’t as knowledgeable or devout a FRIDAY THE 13TH fan as you claim to be (to say nothing of the fact that any real F13 fan should love Shannon and Swift for delivering two blockbuster hits in a row).
No, I’ll talk about pot here. What baffles me is how no one seems to understand that marijuana can and does grow all by itself in the wild. Just because the US government wiped out most of it doesn’t mean there aren’t still plenty of places where it can thrive without being tended. Few people go to Crystal Lake anymore, but there used to be a summer camp there, complete with randy, pot-smoking teens. All it would take is one kid to toss a few seeds down way back when and the conditions to be right, and next thing you know, a patch of wild weed. That’s all that was going on in the film. I’m not certain why so many people believe that Jason is cultivating the stuff, since there’s no evidence that he’s taken or smoked any of it in the beginning, and the film clearly states that he doesn’t want anyone anywhere near his camp. He kills Donnie in the loft over the barn (Funny how I remember this cliched character by name and laugh at his behavior every time I see the film, isn’t it?) because the idiot has been trespassing on his land; not because Donnie is stealing his weed or some other nonsense.
Yes the script is bad. I no none of them are masterpieces but they made no effort to give any depth to the characters aside from the hero. The teens at the beginning were the worst acting I’ve seen in the franchise and the dialogue was cringing. But Jason was awesome!
Hmmm let me think for a sec. Yeah, the creators of this movie ARE that goddamn dumb!!! Maybe if the entire movie didn\’t revolve around weed there wouldn\’t be this issue. Christ a 15 year old could\’ve written this piece of crap.
F13 movies always have weed in them. Just about every one of them. Part 3 had the best weed moments though
I think all these loose holes will be filled in the sequel.
I never got the impression that it was Jason’s weed, but the movie does offer that as an aside…Look, Jason has been in the woods for years, killing people (which apparently the old lady knows but the cops don’t)…This redneck is apparently a resident…He’s been there for a while and nothing happened to him…Minutes (on screen time) after he says he found some weed (which again, yuppies from God knows where have heard about this but this local just found it?) Jason shows up to do him in…Someone said he was caught stealing kerosene? When was he caught? The guy said “someone” and it’s not like Jason was standing there listening to the guy talk to Clay and was like “Uh oh, the Jig is up” and got to murdering.
No, the movie, skips all plausible logic and mentions the weed and then he’s dead. I know the real reason for this is an excuse to get Jason out of the sack and into the MASK, but it was poorly executed and that’s why people are mentioning it. It was a random character inserted into the film for the necessity of the script. Which, by an large, is bad writing.
That character was lame. Too sleazy as well, with the way he was licking the naked centrefold in the porn mag. Out of place in a F13 movie
The weed is not Jason’s…He is not protecting it, it is on the grounds. Pretty straight forward and clear in my mind.
“That character was lame. Too sleazy as well, with the way he was licking the naked centrefold in the porn mag. Out of place in a F13 movie”
The series always had sleazy characters parts 4 and 5 come to mind straight away…remember the old school porn scene? Remember the guy who got his head cut off on his bike, different sleazy but sleazy all the same.
It seems that after part 1 many of the sequels contained a lower class of citizens in Crystal Lake.
Well..I guess as long as you guys liked Jason, then that’s all that countys. He killed them sleezy characters didn’t he ? That’s why they’re all weak, so they can be ready for Jason to slaughter.
Sean, Jason killed that hick for a reason. He had to go onto Jason’s territory to find the weed, and Jason followed him. It’s a staple of the series…if you wander into his woods, you die. The hick wasn’t killed before because he lived on the outskirts of Crystal Lake and was technically safe.
I don’t know what all the fuss is about? Jason does not use that stuff, he doesnt grow it either! like others have said ITS ON HIS LAND!!!
And the film was great! Some of u hate the script, i dont! but all in all, its a f13 film!!!!!!
People are complaining about the acting and script, seriously? WTF! This one was Shakespeare compared to most any other Friday the 13th. Not that I completely hate them, but try watching 5-X again. An about the weed, seriously I think people need to get out more. There are numerous explanations. I didn’t need my hand held, but I guess some people are too dumb to realize it isn’t Jason’s pot.
I know exactly what your saying, the reason why jason tracked him down was due to the fact that redneck constanly kept coming to jasons woods and it was pissing him off so he had to kill him, its not the first time jason tracked someone down(jason takes mahanttan) and he killed the people at the lake house b/c SAm(supernatural) was fucking around in jasons woods and jason caught them!!!
now guys please help me with this, I’m gonna buy a hockey mask from the new movie, which one looks more screen accurate b/c there 11123321332 ton out there
http://www.thepropshopsite.com/CampKillerRebornHock.html
does that look like the one he dons?
That’s a good mask. Im trying to figure the same thing out myself. Fiberglassmasks.com also makes a good one.
I think it was obviously tossed in there as an intended joke, as some people were going to take it that way. This IS a Friday film after all, which calls for sex, drugs, and violence. I think it’s rather funny, nothing to get serious about.
Everyone that came close to the weed was killed right away. It wasn’t the hillbilly’s weed, either, if I remember correctly he just found it in the woods and took it to make some buck.
Tony Carroll is correct. It doesn’t take Rhodes Scholar to figure out that Jason had been stealing Kerosene from the woodchipper Hillbilly, and this particular time the Hillbilly happened to return to the barn while Jason was still there.
The idea that Jason would even KNOW what marijuana is, much less grow and harvest it, is pretty preposterous. If that’s what you honestly deduced from the movie, I think this latest Friday is probably a bit too cerebral for you.
Jasons only motive for killing is because he heard his mothers voice telling him to seek revenge for him and her. “Kill for mother”, that was basically his motive in the original series as well.
Hopefully, they continue on with his ability to survive, what would normally be fatal, injuries. I think this film pretty much establishes an upcoming sequel.
Some kid planted the crops. went back periodically to check on them. during one of his routine visits he got slaughtered. Meanwhile back in town before he was slaughtered he got drunk a couple of times and let the info on his crop slip out. word gets around about a bunch of pot growing in the crystal lake woods and this just works in Jason’s favor. now every group of stoners are spending there weekend out there looking for it. some give up and return home empty handed. most find mr. voorhees using those pot plants as the perfect bait to lure in unsuspecting careless teenagers.
guys check this out so fucking funny the wrestler jason spoof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AezxNgUtKPE
not that it matters anyway, but as I remember it, the hillbilly jason kills, tells clay that he found the weed, not that he grew it..
I havent seen the movie yet( I live in a small town, hours away from a decent theatre). But in this one, is Jason still retarded and drowns? From the plot summaries I read “no”
“B to the K” - yes, you are right, the redneck told Clay that he found the weed. Also, right before Jason kills the redneck, you see the redneck walking back to the barn from elsewhere. When he drops the clump of weed into the scale, common sense allows the audience to understand that he had just been on Jason’s property, stealing the clump of weed. So, Jason, with the already established motive of killing trespassers, followed the redneck back to the barn and kills him.
Since the redneck had never before trespassed, Jason didn’t bother being aggressive toward him. Jason, however, had been stealing the kerosene and remaining hidden from view. He may be a backwoods killer, but, just as the lady mentioned, “he wants to be left alone.” Jason surely doesn’t want to draw unnecessary attention to himself. Thus he only kills trespassers.
I loved the new Friday, it was everything I thought it should be and more. It actually caught me a bit off guard that Jason was more than a brutal killing machine in this one, to see the wheels turning in his head was a much welcomed changed in my opinion. But as far as the whole growing weed bit goes… come on. That’s just lame. Jason doesn’t need drugs, alright? He gets high off life… taking the lives of others that is.
Im so sick and tired of everyone badouthing this movie, get a fucking life. i have been a friday the 13th fan sience day one, and let me let you guys in on a little secret there all fucking cheessey thats the point, there dumbass kids and jason kills them. i think as jason fans we sould all be on our hands and knees thanking god that we got another movie and the posibility of a sequal. so if you wanna rip a movie, first look at part one throught 11 and tell me the truth if it was any of thoses that just came out you would be saying the same shit, so get off your godamn highhorse and realize the friday the 13th franchise ising going for and oscar they just wanted to make a badass movie for people to see jason again, i knew how it waas gonna be and you know what when i went and seen it i wasent disapointed bc when i went to the theater ii wasent looking for dark knight i wanted to see jason. and thts what i got i fucking loved it.
Christian…you keep ripping on the “teenage” characters in this film. You speak of how they lacked substance and how they were uninteresting. Worse of all - you say the acting is terrible. Have you not seen the previous 11 films?!!
Let’s see…this film had superlative acting compared to some of the other garbage in this franchise. Or maybe in your mind, cartoon characters like Junior and his mother Ethel from Part 5 were great performances? (”He hurt me, ma! He hurt me!”) Or maybe you’re just biased because of the stellar acting you saw in Parts 8, 9, and 10?
Besides Alice, Ginny, Chris, Tommy, and Tina, I hardly remember much of anything about any of the characters in the franchise. Haven’t you noticed that usually only the main character gets any sort of real “depth?” It is standard horror film fare.
And to “thundergod76″ - I sincerely hope that the “76″ part of your moniker doesn’t refer to the year you were born. Because it would be a travesty to know that a 32 year old can’t follow the simple plot of this film.
By the way, in my comment above, I was being sarcastic when speaking of “superlative acting in 8, 9, and 10.”
I’d hate to confuse someone like thundergod76, who seems incapable of comprehension.
This and the absolute BS that people are making statements of Jason never has and never should run are the two biggest idiotic compliants.
Gee Paul Holt, I’m entitled to my own opinion so if you don’t like hearing it ignore my posts.
Once again, you heartily validate your complaints, Christian.
How can I ignore your posts when you repeatedly piss & moan about this film, without any real analysis or thoughts on improvement?
And look, I offer a modicum of logic on how you are mistaken (without being hostile toward you) and you ignore it.
It’s a shame the internet facilitates people’s urge to complain just for the sake of it.
And since so many seem to think of the original franchise as Scorsese-type-material in terms of actors/characters:
Did you see the guy who played Tommy Jarvis in Part 5? He was an awful actor who couldn’t emote to save his life. Also, he was supposed to be like 15-years-old, yet he easily looked 25.
All 3 actors who played Tommy Jarvis couldn’t have been more unalike.
F13 has never been about fine acting. Did you see Crispin Glover dancing in Part 4?! Or how about the totally Oscar worthy performance of the black boxer dude from Part 8? I was literally blown away by his acting! I could feel his exhaustion as he ran out of energy punching Jason toward the edge of the roof.
My opinion hasn’t changed in the last few minutes. Some aspects of the movie were good, the acting of the ‘teens’ was not one of them. If you disagree then good for you. I don’t have to justify my opinion to you, but it’s a forum so I am at least entitled to give it and you are entitled to ignore it. And rhyming off other crap actors from the franchise won’t change my mind either, I just felt they hired pretty boys who couldn’t act. By all means don’t agree with me, if you thought they were Scorcese material then I’m very happy for you
P.S. And how can you say I am mistaken when it’s personal preference? That doesn’t make sense
I agree with Paul, you seem to do nothing but complain about how characters have no depth but jesus you’re talking about a SLASHER film. If you want depth go watch Steel Magnolias or I suggest you re-evaluate your arguement to something that makes more sense.
Indeed you are entitled to your opinions, and I know I cannot change them, but I just cannot believe you stated:
“The worst acting I’ve seen in the franchise.” (It’s the 12th post in this thread.)
You state is as fact, and though I do not believe the acting in this film is wonderful, it is by far not equivalent to what you stated.
I meant: “you state IT as fact.”
It’s how I feel. If you disagree, as you both clearly do, then I can’t see a problem. The great thing about art is you can have your own opinions and just because someone else disagrees that doesn’t make you wrong. So liked the acting, I didn’t. End of story!
As I said, you are entitled to your opinions.
We may disagree, but I am at least thankful you’re not one of the people crying about Jason being a marijuana farmer. Or the fact that he “shouldn’t run.”
There’s a difference between a fan and a fanboy, thankfully I’m not the latter. I’m not going to cry about them trying something new, my only issue was some of the talent on display. But we’ll move passed that anyway. As for the weed, I couldn’t care less about as it was such a minor thing, and I was pleased to see Jason running and being cunning as it made him more threatening. Criticisms aside, I think Derek Mears did an awesome job as Jason and I’d love to see him come back for a sequel!
Yes…the weed was merely a plot device. It is not uncommon for marijuana to grow out in the wild. Anyway, the marijuana drew Whitney’s gang to the CCL area. Whitney’s disappearance then drew Clay to the CCL area. Thus it was just a means to an end concerning the story. Oh yeah, it also was a reason for Jason to stalk the redneck back to the barn, where he found his mask. The growth of marijuana was never mentioned again.
And Derek Mears’ fast, brutal Jason was indeed awesome. A refreshing change from the teleporting Jason on Part 8, or the lumbering frankenstein of FvJ.
I also liked the bow and error death - one of the better parts of the movie - and for all the fans that bitched about that both Jack and Bill were killed by an arrow in the original movie so I don’t see why that has been an issue for some. The redneck guy was a bit pointless but I guess it gave him more people to chop up and a aplace to find the hockey mask, and you cna’t help but smile at that moment
Yeah, the bow & arrow death didn’t bother me. I thought it was a great surprise to see Nolan get killed like that, since it happened so fast. I thought it was a tribute to Vera’s (I think that was her name) death in Part 3. Anyway, when wither Mike & Whitney or Clay & Jenna are in Jason’s shack, you see he has trophies for hockey & archery.
I thought that the way Jason found the mask, and donned it, were excellent. I mean, I don’t know what kind of event people were expecting. It’s just finding a mask and then putting it on. Pretty simple thing to do. I guess some fans were expecting a heavenly light to shine down, and then some sort of song and dance routine.
Jason checking himself out in the mirror was what any person would do.
Besides, when Jason got the mask in parts 3 & 8, there was nothing significant to the event. The closest was in Part 6, when he picks it up, dons it, and turns to look at the camera.
I just think people don’t pay attention and like to assume things without doing the research.
Did you notice the old wheelchair in Jason’s tunnel? Wonder if that was a reference to Mark from Part 2. That was a cool death scene too
Jason looks into the mirror thinking in Michael Clarke Duncan’s voice, “Yeeeahh… You sexy muthafucka. Who they think they gonna f*ck wit!”
good call on the wheel chair reference. i noticed it but didnt make the connection.
Yeah, I didn’t even notice the wheelchair until the second time I saw the film.
Poor Mark…he was about to score and then Jason had to put that machete into his forehead. At least Jason doesn’t discriminate when he kills. And to add insult to injury (or death), he let Mark go rolling down the stairs.
this movie sucked!
I posted a blog on some the references in the film here - http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=267105505&blogID=471332131 - I’m sure there’s more I need to think about as the script is probably full of them
just kidding
Jason jumping through the window could also be considered a reference to part 4 when he grabs Tommy.
the opening when he kills one camper while the other 2 are bangin in the tent is similiar to the campers in JGTH getting killed. Slicing the back of the tent open to attack the girl in the sleeping bag is a nod to everyone’s favorite part 7 death.
Mrs. V calling Jason her special special boy is out of FvJ. The way his mak lands at the bottom of the lake at the end is like the end of Jason X when his uber mask does the same thing.
Yep they all sound reasonable, except I saw him jumping through the window as a reference to the end of Part 2 but they both work just as well
I will say it would of been nice to get have gotten a kill scene during the sex scene. I was so waiting for that reference from part 2 during the last sex scene of the movie….
Jason was in The Barn stealing Kerosene when the redneck heard him.Thats why Jason Killed Him.As Far As Why Didnt Jason kill All the People Living Around There Before That was Because He Only Kills Those Who Enter His Woods around Crystal Lake. Its Really That Simple.
The writers more likely wrote as Jason’s weed to make Jason more Human and (dumb-a**) cool. Now they are saying “No, it is not his” because people did not like their (dumb-a**) cool idea. The weed was wild and the farmer was more likely stealing it from jason. The Jason in this movie was setting all types of traps and the weed was more likely one of them.
Yea you could tell in the barn scene Jason was enjoying that hockey masked after he put it on. He was looking in the mirror for a few seconds.
jackwalter, I like your analogy on the weed thing.
Thank you for TRUTH. It fucking pisses me off that people really think Jason is a weed farmer. The only reason it was even added to the plot-line is because, 1) It would be popular amongst teenagers, thinking it to be “funny” 2) It helped to fill the hole of WHY the first group of teenagers were at Crystal lake in the first place.
Anybody who knows the slightest bit about Jason knows that he would never do something like smoke pot. Mother would not approve.
She would be like how dare you sit around all day smoking pot get off your lazy ass off the bed you have a job to do. You gotta kill jason, kill. Enough with the goofy impersenations
I can’t fuckin believe that people would think that Jason is a weed farmer.That\’s the dumbest think I ever heard.Some people are just so fuckin stupid.
I can’t believe you guys are still talking about his fucking weed shit!!!!! Get over it!!! Jason fucking MURDERS INNOCENT TEENS and you are worried about his image being tarnished as a weed farmer?
Seriously. Jason blazes that shit up every day.
Because I got High (Friday the 13th 2024)
I was gonna go in the woods before I got high
I could found a buncha weed and got rich but I got high
I got my face cut up and now I know why..
because I got high repeat 3x
I was gonna get laid in a tent and then I got high
went to check a noise in the woods and then I got high
now my girls burnt and hung from a tree and now I know why
because I got high repeat 3x
I went down to Crystal Lake and then I got High
I went out on the water in a boat then I got high
Now an arrows stuck in my face and now I know why
because I got high 3x
i wasnt gonna run from jason but I was high
I was gonna give up because it was no use but i was high
now i got a hole in my head and now I know why..
because I got high 3x
I was gonna go to the shed until I got high
I was gonna turn on the lights but then I got high
now I got a phillips in the neck and I know why
because I got high 3x
I was gonna go with Trent because I got high
I heard a noise and he went to check because I got high
now Im hanging from a hook on the door and now I know why
cause I got high 3x
I was gonna save my friend but then I got high
I was gonna beat the hell out of Jason but then I got high
now I got an axe in the back and now I know why
cause I got high 3x
I was called for a disturbance because kids are high
im drivin up to crystal camp because kids are high
now im speared to the door and now I know why..
cause I got high 3x
im gonna run through the woods because I got high
im gonna be the only one out because I got high
now Im pinned to an old mans truck and I know why
cause I got high 3x
we’re running through jasons tunnels because we got high
saved my new guys sister then we got high
now I took a machete through the chest and I know why
cause I got high 3x
Im gonna kill these two kids because I’m high
I’m chasing them through a bus and the woods because I’m high
Now Im at the bottom of the lake and I know why..
cause I’m high 3x..nanannannanann
I think in the next movie Jason should brick up his weed, tape it to the engine of a cadi, and take it to the streets.
I think in the sequel the first shot should be of Jason toking on a Bob Marley-sized joint and then blowing it through the holes of his mask, just to piss off the fanboys, lol. Then he should go for a run coz that seems to annoy them too
I don’t think Jason could be a weed farmer. I mean he always kills the people using that stuff.
FYI Paul I’m much older than 32. Unlike yourself I’m not the stereotypical F13th fan that Hollywood made this piece of crap film for. Just because a hockey mask is thrown on an actor doesn’t mean I’m gonna eat this film up and fall in love with it. Excuse me if I failed to realize Jason wasn’t a dopehead. Funny how this topic has confused MANY including alot of movie critics. Maybe the filmmakers should’ve made this a bit clearer instead of making all the unecessary sex & drug use such a no brainer.
thundergod76 - Unnecessary sex and drug use? Are you kidding? Have you not seen the other 11 films?
Of course I have but this new film is complete overkill IMO. Seriously, how much sex & drugs do you really need to get your point across?
I need alot of sex and drugs and not just in this movie thank you very much!
WOW. See I hate critics for this reason. They don’t have a fucking clue at all. A great movie to them is a movie about Heath Ledger (RIP) and some other dude butt plugging each others assholes on a mountain!!! WHAT A GREAT MOVIE…… But when they see a horror movie they just make up some shitty reason to say why a the film is bad. NOT only that, but the reason why it’s a bad movie is because some stupid shit that they make up in their own heads and can’t just sit and pay attention to the movie!!!! Critics are stupid and need to stick to there gay cowboy movies and let us enjoy our hero.
Well, “thundergod76,” if I am just a “stereotypical F13 fan that Hollywood made this piece of crap for,” how come I could easily pick up on the fact that Jason had no interest in the weed whatsoever, while those “film critics” that you praise could not? Shows they either (a) disregarded the plot from the start since they are naturally biased against slasher films, or (b) are in the wrong line of work if they can’t use common sense to figure out the coloring book simple plot of a Michael Bay film.
And many people in this thread DO NOT think Jason is a weed farmer, hence the thread TITLE, and the numerous arguments about idiots (like you) who failed to understand that Jason did not care about the wild marijuana growing on his territory.
You think a child, who grew up on his own since his mother was killed, knows a goddamn thing about drugs?
Anyway, about your statement that there is unnecessary sex and drugs…did you see the other films? Drug usage is rampant. Hell, I remember that in Part 2, Paul even says “these kids smoke better weed than I do,” and he was the responsible adult male in that film. As for nudity, off the top of my head, Part 2 has Teri strip down and go skinny dipping (not to mention she never wears a bra when clothed), and Ginny&Paul have sex, Mark&Vicki are about to, and the other 2 kids get killed post-coitus with a spear through them. Then in Part 4, you have a whole group of kids go skinny dipping, Judie Aronson’s character gets totally nude TWICE (thank God for that!), 2 kids have a naked shower, Jimmy plows one of the twins, little Tommy watches 2 people preparing to have sex through a window. And these were early 1980’s films, when such imagery was far more taboo than in 2024. The reboot showed what…Amanda’s tits, Chelsea’s tits, and Bree’s entire body. 2 sex scenes total. That’s it…I don’t understand how that is considered excessive.
And finally, you say “just because a hockey mask is thrown on an actor, doesn’t mean he is Jason.” Oh okay, Derek Mears was a terrible Jason. I guess you prefer when the hockey mask is thrown onto a normal man who isn’t even Jason (Part 5), or a teleporting killer (Part 8), or the mask barely even shows up (Part 9). Or maybe yet, you prefer when the hockey mask shows up on a cyborg (Part X) or a Frankenstein-wannabe (FvJ). Yeah, you’re right, pal - those are SO much better.
To Paul Holt: I need to come to your for my friday the 13th history you know a lot of details about the past films.
I am very divided by the new F13 movie. I am a hardcore fan of the first four installments and I watch them all the time. I have went through two VHS sets and I am on my third DVD box set. I also went and bought the blue ray for part 1 when it came out. I would rate the killings and the new Jason an A+, the script a D- and the casting, besides Jason, Jared Padalecki, and Danielle Panabaker was a F. What I love about the first four F13’s is how you care about the characters and how they are very believable. They also have some common sense. They also don’t wobble around the whole time drunk and with a bong in their hang. (Minus the hippy couple from part3) I think the new F13 is a combination between a horror film and Abercrombie and Fitch catalog. The issue I have with this cast is, why would you go with a group of people camping that you really didn’t like? I also hate how the black guy or girl in a new horror films are always a gangsta, gonna cut you, and put themselves out there to be killed. Why can’t they act like the other kids and be smart. Why does the Asian guy gotta be the nerdy, fix things kid? I hated that they had the little prick, that went around saying this is mine or that is mine. I mean what sticks with you in the old ones is how you cared for the victims that died and it really had an emotional impact on you. Did you notice how the black and Asian guy were somewhat segregated from the group in the new F13remake? I like how a movie can play with your emotions and mind. I also think what makes the old ones so magical is the time period. They didn’t have cell phones or gps’s. What if the survivor in one of the older films got into there car, realized they left there keys inside and called On-Star to crank their car via satellite? LOL I mean that would totally take the magic out of it. They should have made it in the 80’s setting, which Michael Bay normally is good at doing with time lines. I was very disappointed with the script. I think they could have really dug deeper. Maybe made the creepy old lady Pamela Vorhees sister, or relative or something. I also didn’t like how they started the movie off with the killing of Alice and Mrs. Vorhees. You would think they would have come up with something different to start the movie. I have alot of respect for Adrian and Betsy and Michael really messed up when he attempted to recreate that scene. The scene lacked emotion. I will give them a A+ on the death scenes as far as the creativity of them. I thought it was so clever how Jason tied the girl above the campfire in the sleeping bag to burn while her boyfriend’s foot was caught in the trap and helpless having watch. That creeped me out the most, because you felt the helplessness of the character. I will say they could have found a better way to kill Jason. I also hate how Michael Bay never lets you feel closure to a movie, even if you know there is going to be a sequel. I mean who would go through a ordeal like the two survivors did, then drag him all the way down to the lake to dump his body? Come on! The script seemed to be scattered until after they all get to the house and by the time you do start getting into it, its over. I think that the fans deserve something way better than what we got. If the Jason has to be in the present, why not bring the survivors back from the originals and let them do a face off. I think it would make a much better movie!
To Holt….Listen asshole, what the fuck is your problem?????? Did you not read any of my posts on this flick? Seems as if someone doesn’t agree with your way of thinking they either “can’t comprehend” or are an “idiot”. Try as you might you cannot begin to compare the VOLUME of sex & drugs in the new movie with the VOLUME of sex and drugs in each of the other Friday movies. IMO (yes stay with me now “pal” it’s an opinion)its complete overkill with this flick.
And when the hell did I EVER say a hockey mask makes someone a Jason? I said…”Just because a hockey mask is thrown on an actor doesn’t mean I’m gonna eat this film up and fall in love with it”!! BIG DIFFERENCE there Einstein.
I respect anyone’s opinions good or bad (including yours) that they have regarding this movie. You should try the same. And so with that I respectfully say go fuck yourself! Find someone else to have a hard on for cause you’re really starting to creep me out.
To Holt…You asked if Jason who grew up on his own since his mother was killed knows a goddamn thing about drugs??? Why not?! He learned to shoot a bow pretty goddamn good didn’t he?
Ah, my good friend “thundergod.” Thanks for that deep, rich analysis. I also appreciate the way you maturely responded to me without the used of vulgarity. Oh wait, you did use vulgarity. Lots of it. Maybe “overkill,” even?
Let’s see…”Just because a hockey mask is thrown on an actor doesn’t mean I’m gonna eat this film up and fall in love with it!” To me, you can only speak of Jason, since other than the main hockey mask wearing icon of F13 fame, surely there is no other character to refer to. Oh wait, maybe you were referring to Shelly in Part 3, or the random partygoer in Part 8 who also were the only characters to don goalie masks in an F13 film. Yes, Einstein indeed!
As for Jason’s archery skill…when Whitney & Mike were investigating the shack (or maybe it was when Clay & Jenna were), they shine the flashlight on 2 trophies in Jason’s bedroom - one for archery and one for hockey. Seems to explain Jason’s archery prowess (which he no doubt cultivated from years of hunting wild animals AND killing wayward teens) and his affinity for hockey masks.
Ding, ding, DING! We have a winner, Johnny!
And I do respect people’s opinions, I just like using logic to crush your uncouth ramblings.
And really, old timer, should you be acting so…what’s the word…childish?
You sound cranky. I think it was pretty clear that Jason wasn’t the one cultivating the mary-ju-wanna. That why when I came back from the theatre and read all this Jason’s a pot farmer stuff I laughed my ass off. I say more sex, drugs and (hopefully) rock and roll in the next F13 and then the brutal bloody kills.
Unnecessary sex and drugs lol. You were one of those parents who brought your kids into the movie thinking it was cool then felt the need to cover their eyes weren’t you? If you were not wtf are you upset about? You oughta enjoy your hard on instead of being ashamed of it.
Eh all I’m saying this isn’t a heart warming drama or supposed to be a moving story. It’s a slasher film for kills, thrills and a couple of laughs.
Wow, people are still arguing about this? There was weed in the movie for about a minute, I’d hardly say it was a major plot point. Almost 100 messages debating whether Jason’s a dealer, lol. You’ll be debating if he’s a pimp next.
Ok Marijuana posting
K saw this movie, love the first 4 fridays, Halloween 1 is fav movie of all time, etc.
The pot showed in the film takes 6 months to grow outdoors (two months preparing indoors)
Someone was planning on growing a small-medium amount of marijuana outdoors, so they went out & found Jason’s area, went & got the clones, came back & basically treated the plants there with udder care.
All this under a small town cops nose & Jasons own fucking backyard? I highly highly doubt this, & i doubt whoever penned this movie has done anything other than put their own little retarted twist on a previously told story. If they did do something actually original in the past, I apologize for dissing their writing capabilities.
This movie was a smelly ass. Note to all you weed theives….. do not bring your tent to rob a man he will kill you. If you even walk near my shit you might get hurt….bad. Besides that weed doesnt just get planted and end up all bud-tastic. it takes lots of time to get those results and surely jason would take notice to the guy with a hoe planting all that shit and such. I was one of 9 people in the theater and I think the others mighta got mad cause I laughed the whole movie. Micheal Bay sucks shit. Anybody with a half brain new halfway into it what would happen. Nothing was worse than Jason the archer. As a bowhunting weedgrower I took offense to this movie, but anyone should know that a boat moving 25-45mph would be hard to hit with your kmart bow BUT A FN HEAD??? RETARD just doesnt do bay justice.
I’m not saying Jason is a pot farmer, but aside from himself and Donnie, no one lived out there, (and Donnie says he found the weed growing). I wouldn’t be pissed if Jason did smoke a few here and there. It makes sense in a way…think about it. Guy witnessed his mother being beheaded, lived alone in the woods for the rest of his life, and he only kills when people enter his territory, which by the looks of things, wasn’t very often. What I’m saying is that outside of hunting, stealing kerosine and preparing the traps, Jason would have A LOT of spare time on his hands, and weed would definitely be something I could see someone using to cope with a death.
ok someone justified Jason’s sudden archery skill by saying they had seen a hockey and an archery trophy in the (Jason’s) bedroom scene. Besides the fact that the bow kill would be a hard shot to make with a $1200 bow much less the 1964 kmart special he used…..did anybody forget he was a tard? How many special needs people win 2 trophies? michael bay cant cover his lack of skill by just sticking a trophy in a scene. No matter how much you polish a shit it still stinks
It was speculated by Wade that Jason was deformed or retarded. But judging from the way Jason used logic to hunt/bait his victims, and the intricate tunnel network, I’d say he was pretty smart.
Based on a childhood archery trophy, coupled with years of hunting wild game (and human victims), Jason kept improving his archery skills.
Maybe a quick shot of a trophy is designed to make you think a little, “biclve.” But I guess maybe you’re not bright enough to go from point A to point B. Either that, or it’s just easier to bitch & moan than to think about something for a second.
Honestly, can’t the audience be allowed to think a little? Or do we need to see an 80s style montage of Jason shooting the bow & arrow as he grows up? Maybe a training regimen montage like in the “Rocky” films?! Or even better, show Jason growing from a child to a man, and use the song “Hakuna Matata” while he prances around with animal friends.
I thought it was quite clear from the get go here Jason wasn’t a tard. In fact when judged against the comments here, Jason’s looking real mighty smart.
Oh if he is so damn smart why was he unable to swim. Its not communist china I can think of alot of things that are retarded about the movie and then I can say those things if I choose. I guess watching a stupid movie is ok but commenting is bad. I bet a third grader could come up with a better death scene. Maybe I am not bright enough to get the A and B shit. But I know a fucking retard when I see it and jason looked like corky on steroids. pauholt You could not possibly have liked the movie for the story so you musta liked it for the blood or tits. thats not what I went for but thats what I got. If I wanna see 8 pairs of tits I’ll role my dog over. haha. I think some people stick up for this shitty movie cause they love michael penisbay. He is a faQQet hero and some people like this movie to much. Hey paulholt what would you rate this movie? 1-10 You seem to like it since you seen it more than once atleast… did micheal bay or any of his staff or actors make any mistakes? I know you will have some real well thought idea of what I did wrong. Did you know that the leading cause of death among gay people is suicide? it beat out aids!
Einstein couldn’t swim either.
I mean dogs!!! please forgive me
i dont really like dog boobs by the way
how do you know did you fucking ask him you shit? You a marxist? I should’nt be allowed to say things right. obama hasnt outlawed free speech yet you damn cumdump! holdoff on the pitchforks girls!
No, but get this…YOU could read about it. Its in these things called books. Its even on the internet. Its the wave of the future man. And on the internet you can go to forums talk about dope, and say what ever crazy shit comes to your mind.
What is this rambling moron talking about? You CAN say whatever you want but that doesn’t mean it makes any sense.
Your worried about the eight pairs of tits(I don’t know about the count)? Then you bash on gay people.
You know a retard when you see one? You couldn’t tell the difference between a cancerous cyst and your pecker.
You don’t sound like you know what your talking about hell you don’t even sound like a F13 fan. Just another Michael Bay sucks bandwagon jumper. I can’t repeat this enough: Michael Bay had no involvement in the script writing or direction.
Why do people come so hard when they don’t even have their facts straight?
Biclve, Jason couldn’t swim as a kid. This movie NEVER states that he was unable to swim in his adult years. Hell, it never even states that he drowned as a kid!
This is the most fucking retarded debate since people started saying that it was the rat and not Ginny who peed under the bed. Both debates truly reveal just how much of the population has zero common sense.
biclve - Einstein couldn’t drive, either, you mouth-breathing fartsack.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL I have never had so much fun in my life..I like coming here just to hear the comments..reminds me of preschool. This is the only place I know where I can hear all about inside pot farming jokes and critical acclaim for the socially inept..
Gotta love dog tits!
Pamela Vorhees planted the marijuana. Jason felt he had to cultivate it. It was his moms ‘medicine’.
jake you fuckin rule man…you fuckin rule..that was cool shit
yes I do.
More chocolate ovaltine please…
haha when I was watching it in the theater and seen the weed, I yelled Jasons a hippie! lol
its obviously not his, but funny.
I’m sorry that film makers can not come up with anything new and creative and think they have to make a classic into something else.. the art is lost… jest like disco music. nothing matches what was produced in the late 70’s and early 80’s… music and films.
sorry i paid the early fee to view FT13th2009.. the other one is the remake of “the day the earth stood still” what a sad remake
jest my opinion…
I’m sorry to break this to you guy, but the alleged pot farmer in the film was NOT the pot farmer, in the film he said that he found it. I noticed this because I paid attention, and because I was angry that the only conversations the film was thus far having was about either weed or GPS gadgets.
That being said, Jason killing a random civilian who has stayed at his home for months and years was pretty weird, which just made people laugh at the whole pot farmer joke. I mean, up until the climax, Jason only killed people that went near those weed bushes. It was stupid and silly.
When I saw it opening night, when Jason turned out those big lights, my friend leaned in and jokingly said “Is that what he uses to grow the weed?” We all had a good chuckle over that, that’s more then can be said over this movie.