Comments on: Part 2 Double Impalement: Original Or Stolen Kill? http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/ News & Updates for fridaythe13thfilms.com Fri, 10 Dec 2024 23:06:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rich http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-203096 Rich Sun, 11 Apr 2024 12:41:33 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-203096 Friday 2 took that scene from Twitch. There is nothing wrong with that. The horror genre takes from each other all the time. Friday 2 took that scene from Twitch. There is nothing wrong with that. The horror genre takes from each other all the time.

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By: Jimmy http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202834 Jimmy Fri, 09 Apr 2024 21:43:22 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202834 I would have to see the complete uncut scene to judge. According to many published accounts, the original Friday the 13th kill scene was longer and much more graphic...so much so that it had to be cut for the movie to get an 'R' rating. The way the scene is now, it is very similar, but the one in TOTDN is actually bloodier and the false back is fake looking. Copied or not, FT13TH2 did a better job. I would have to see the complete uncut scene to judge. According to many published accounts, the original Friday the 13th kill scene was longer and much more graphic…so much so that it had to be cut for the movie to get an ‘R’ rating. The way the scene is now, it is very similar, but the one in TOTDN is actually bloodier and the false back is fake looking. Copied or not, FT13TH2 did a better job.

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By: Camoern http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202415 Camoern Thu, 08 Apr 2024 05:54:58 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202415 Who cares if it's ripped off or not...it wouldn't be remembered very well if it weren't for part 2...in fact would anybody remember TOTDN otherwise? Who cares if it’s ripped off or not…it wouldn’t be remembered very well if it weren’t for part 2…in fact would anybody remember TOTDN otherwise?

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By: kevin http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202401 kevin Thu, 08 Apr 2024 03:32:50 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202401 they aren't just similar, they are the EXACT same scene...it's taken for sure...no way it's original they aren’t just similar, they are the EXACT same scene…it’s taken for sure…no way it’s original

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By: Derek Price http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202371 Derek Price Wed, 07 Apr 2024 19:29:41 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202371 Very similar indeed. However, when two things are being compared that are very similar if not the same, I am reminded of a quote by Boy George when asked what he thought about Pete Burns, the lead singer of "Dead or Alive," complaining about how Boy George had ripped off his use of cross-dressing/androgyny and that Pete had done it first. The quote is this: "It's not who did it first. It's who did it better." And, obviously, "Friday:2," did it better. Very similar indeed. However, when two things are being compared that are very similar if not the same, I am reminded of a quote by Boy George when asked what he thought about Pete Burns, the lead singer of “Dead or Alive,” complaining about how Boy George had ripped off his use of cross-dressing/androgyny and that Pete had done it first. The quote is this: “It’s not who did it first. It’s who did it better.” And, obviously, “Friday:2,” did it better.

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By: Bobby Russell http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202288 Bobby Russell Wed, 07 Apr 2024 00:47:59 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202288 The only thing I can say is that our happy couple didn't keep going in the middle of the "spearing!" That aside, yeah, they are similar, but a lot of times, scenes like this are similar in some way, shape, or form. The only thing I can say is that our happy couple didn’t keep going in the middle of the “spearing!”

That aside, yeah, they are similar, but a lot of times, scenes like this are similar in some way, shape, or form.

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By: The Gill-Man http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202238 The Gill-Man Tue, 06 Apr 2024 14:42:42 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202238 Yeah, it's definitely a rip. I think Cunningham and Miner would have gotten less flack about it if they'd just said "this scene is our homage to Twitch of the Death Nerve", rather than trying to pretend they had never seen the film. Giving a nod to a favorite film is done by directors all the time in Hollywood. If Miner had just said "yeah, I love Bava and wanted to tip my hat to him in this scene", then I think most fans would have respected that. It's a damned cool scene, in both flicks! Yeah, it’s definitely a rip. I think Cunningham and Miner would have gotten less flack about it if they’d just said “this scene is our homage to Twitch of the Death Nerve”, rather than trying to pretend they had never seen the film. Giving a nod to a favorite film is done by directors all the time in Hollywood. If Miner had just said “yeah, I love Bava and wanted to tip my hat to him in this scene”, then I think most fans would have respected that. It’s a damned cool scene, in both flicks!

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By: DrJohnMan http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202236 DrJohnMan Tue, 06 Apr 2024 14:36:06 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202236 If this went to court, I am sure the judge would rule that the italian movie influenced the Friday the 13th kill. George Harrison (beatles fame) was sued for that My Sweet Lord song he had. The court ruled that he subconsciously took a guitar riff from another song and added it to his. He lost a lot of money. In the very least, you can say that happened here. Though, it seems like maybe a bit more. Today, its no big deal to borrow scenes from other movies. Happens all the time. If this went to court, I am sure the judge would rule that the italian movie influenced the Friday the 13th kill. George Harrison (beatles fame) was sued for that My Sweet Lord song he had. The court ruled that he subconsciously took a guitar riff from another song and added it to his. He lost a lot of money. In the very least, you can say that happened here. Though, it seems like maybe a bit more.

Today, its no big deal to borrow scenes from other movies. Happens all the time.

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By: Tony Carroll http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202125 Tony Carroll Tue, 06 Apr 2024 02:22:25 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202125 There are a few kills in Twitch that are really similar to the first 2 Friday the 13th films. There are a few kills in Twitch that are really similar to the first 2 Friday the 13th films.

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By: Jason http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202121 Jason Tue, 06 Apr 2024 01:51:39 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202121 It's funny that "Twitch" was also know as "Last House on the Left Part II" and had nothing to do with the first Last House. It’s funny that “Twitch” was also know as “Last House on the Left Part II” and had nothing to do with the first Last House.

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By: jasonsfury http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-202016 jasonsfury Mon, 05 Apr 2024 16:34:53 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-202016 <blockquote>jasonsfury, you’re thinking of Dario Argento’s 1975 “Deep Red” with the hot tub scene in Halloween 2. Even though in Deep Red, it was just a simple bathtub in a woman’s house</blockquote> Ah ha. Thanks NW. Now that sounds like the correct movie. Memories! :)

jasonsfury, you’re thinking of Dario Argento’s 1975 “Deep Red” with the hot tub scene in Halloween 2. Even though in Deep Red, it was just a simple bathtub in a woman’s house

Ah ha. Thanks NW. Now that sounds like the correct movie. Memories! :)

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By: Hevymentl13 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-201981 Hevymentl13 Mon, 05 Apr 2024 13:40:39 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-201981 I doubt Friday 2 ripped off The Burning, seeing as how they were released the same year...and the Cropsy folklore was around way before either of the movies came about. I doubt Friday 2 ripped off The Burning, seeing as how they were released the same year…and the Cropsy folklore was around way before either of the movies came about.

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By: Paul Juser http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-201917 Paul Juser Mon, 05 Apr 2024 11:11:58 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-201917 Friday 2 also blatantly stole the campfire story scene from a 1981 movie, "The Burning," which featured a young Jason Alexander. In fact, this story of Cropsy, a disfigured camp worker seeking his revenge with a pair of gardening shears seems to have set up the whole future of the Friday franchise. There is no coincidence that Steve Miner "accidentally" recreated all these iconic scenes. Friday 2 also blatantly stole the campfire story scene from a 1981 movie, “The Burning,” which featured a young Jason Alexander. In fact, this story of Cropsy, a disfigured camp worker seeking his revenge with a pair of gardening shears seems to have set up the whole future of the Friday franchise. There is no coincidence that Steve Miner “accidentally” recreated all these iconic scenes.

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By: MadWorldDesigns http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-201839 MadWorldDesigns Mon, 05 Apr 2024 05:52:37 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-201839 Yeah I saw this debate brought up many years ago. It's also brought up in a couple of shasher film documentaries if my mind serves me right. It's totally a rip and I sort of remember Cunningham saying some where that he used that scene in Twitch for inspiration for his concept or something along those lines. (but I'd have to go back and research that comment) Plus if you have read the behind the scenes of that shot that the original cut also shows them squirming on the bed trying to get off the spear in Friday 2 but it got cut down. So if you could see the uncut version it would be identical. But I like the Friday 2 version better. Steve mwd Yeah I saw this debate brought up many years ago. It’s also brought up in a couple of shasher film documentaries if my mind serves me right.

It’s totally a rip and I sort of remember Cunningham saying some where that he used that scene in Twitch for inspiration for his concept or something along those lines. (but I’d have to go back and research that comment)

Plus if you have read the behind the scenes of that shot that the original cut also shows them squirming on the bed trying to get off the spear in Friday 2 but it got cut down. So if you could see the uncut version it would be identical.

But I like the Friday 2 version better.

Steve
mwd

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By: NW http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/part-2-double-impalement-original-or-stolen-kill/comment-page-1/#comment-201833 NW Mon, 05 Apr 2024 05:08:50 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=9018#comment-201833 jasonsfury, you're thinking of Dario Argento's 1975 "Deep Red" with the hot tub scene in Halloween 2. Even though in Deep Red, it was just a simple bathtub in a woman's house. ;) Oh, a male character in "Twitch of the Death Nerve" also feature a man wearing a sweater that look a lot like what Pamela Voorhees wear!! :D jasonsfury, you’re thinking of Dario Argento’s 1975 “Deep Red” with the hot tub scene in Halloween 2. Even though in Deep Red, it was just a simple bathtub in a woman’s house. ;)

Oh, a male character in “Twitch of the Death Nerve” also feature a man wearing a sweater that look a lot like what Pamela Voorhees wear!! :D

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