Comments on: Professionally Made, Authentic Looking Hockey Masks http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/ News & Updates for fridaythe13thfilms.com Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:54:43 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: clownnation http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135901 clownnation Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:00:31 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135901 Jeff is right about one thing. This isnt the place for this. If anyone has a problem with JDF then they should take it up with him personally. If someone has a problem with ken, then he has invited anyone to call him. This is a cool and fun blog and this arguement will go in circles. So it's unnessessary. Be good all! Have fun! Jeff is right about one thing. This isnt the place for this. If anyone has a problem with JDF then they should take it up with him personally. If someone has a problem with ken, then he has invited anyone to call him.

This is a cool and fun blog and this arguement will go in circles. So it’s unnessessary.

Be good all! Have fun!

]]> By: JDF http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135886 JDF Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:56:03 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135886 One of my customers was nice enough to send me a link to this mess...Even when I'm on vacation I can't relax because of this sh*t... What can really say here? To the folks here who support me and my work, thank you, I do appreciate the support, but please don't defend me here. I ask that the bashing of Tarallo and his artists stop. I've gone back and forth with them for a while, and this here is just making the flames burn hotter, it's just going to cause more drama for me and them. Who ever is in charge of this blog should disable posting. This should have been done months ago it seems. The one thing I will comment on here is the BS that my masks are recasts. My masks are NOT direct recasts of Ken Tarallo's. Anyone who owns both my mask and Ken's can tell you they're different. Ken when I get back to NY on Monday I'm going to give you a call. This sh*t needs to be settled. You know how I feel about you, and I know how you feel about me. What's being said here about you has nothing to do with me. People were calling you a BS artist long before I ever did, so don't pull the it's cause of you sh*t either. I can go into a long winded post here and say this and that, but it's not going to solve anything. I'll call you tomorrow. If we don't settle this drama between us it's never going to end. Jeff- One of my customers was nice enough to send me a link to this mess…Even when I’m on vacation I can’t relax because of this sh*t…

What can really say here? To the folks here who support me and my work, thank you, I do appreciate the support, but please don’t defend me here. I ask that the bashing of Tarallo and his artists stop.

I’ve gone back and forth with them for a while, and this here is just making the flames burn hotter, it’s just going to cause more drama for me and them.

Who ever is in charge of this blog should disable posting. This should have been done months ago it seems.

The one thing I will comment on here is the BS that my masks are recasts. My masks are NOT direct recasts of Ken Tarallo’s. Anyone who owns both my mask and Ken’s can tell you they’re different.

Ken when I get back to NY on Monday I’m going to give you a call. This sh*t needs to be settled. You know how I feel about you, and I know how you feel about me. What’s being said here about you has nothing to do with me. People were calling you a BS artist long before I ever did, so don’t pull the it’s cause of you sh*t either. I can go into a long winded post here and say this and that, but it’s not going to solve anything. I’ll call you tomorrow. If we don’t settle this drama between us it’s never going to end.

Jeff-

]]> By: Truth http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135831 Truth Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:28:26 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135831 Ken, you've only started claiming it was a group effort within the past year or so. I remember reading some of your older claims and you took full credit for creating the part 3 mask. The FACT is that you didn\'t. As for you saying JDF copied your mask, that's mere jealousy because someone finally made something that competes with the mighty Frightstuff. You bullied Jeff out of the business and you know it. I have placed one of your blanks beside one of Jeff's blanks and I could tell that they were different masks. Similar, yes but there are obvious differences. You've got a god complex, Ken. No one is allowed to compete with you. No one is allowed to create their own molds and offer high quality masks as long as they resemble yours or else they're fucking recasters. You claim you've done this all for the fans but I've seen things you didn't want people to see. I know about your retirement plan, Ken. You say people who bought Jeff's masks were stabbing you in the back? I know of at least two of your current artists who bought clear masks from him. I don't care if you don't believe me. I've seen proof. The main reason you're pissed at Jeff isn't because you think he recasted your masks. It's because he publicly humiliated you by telling the truth. As for you, VF80, are you SERIOUSLY saying that Richard Brooker knows what the fuck he's talking about? He's a washed up alcoholic who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. He doesn't give a fuck about the fans. If he did, he would show some appreciation toward them at conventions instead of getting drunk and being a dick to them. He thought Crash's part 3 paint-up was the fucking screen used mask! You don't believe me? Look it up on Youtube. Also, just because you've painted over 30 masks and have a table at a convention doesn't make you any better than the next guy. That's you subtly bragging and trying to get recognition hoping that someone will look you up and buy your masks. You're trying to gain notoriety by kissing Ken's ass in hopes that he'll let you be one of his artists so people will notice you. It's all about money for you people. Whatever happened to painting masks SOLELY because you enjoy it? Why not try having a few giveaways every now and then? Show some appreciation for the fans instead of raping their fucking wallets. Ken, you’ve only started claiming it was a group effort within the past year or so. I remember reading some of your older claims and you took full credit for creating the part 3 mask. The FACT is that you didn\’t. As for you saying JDF copied your mask, that’s mere jealousy because someone finally made something that competes with the mighty Frightstuff. You bullied Jeff out of the business and you know it. I have placed one of your blanks beside one of Jeff’s blanks and I could tell that they were different masks. Similar, yes but there are obvious differences. You’ve got a god complex, Ken. No one is allowed to compete with you. No one is allowed to create their own molds and offer high quality masks as long as they resemble yours or else they’re fucking recasters. You claim you’ve done this all for the fans but I’ve seen things you didn’t want people to see. I know about your retirement plan, Ken. You say people who bought Jeff’s masks were stabbing you in the back? I know of at least two of your current artists who bought clear masks from him. I don’t care if you don’t believe me. I’ve seen proof. The main reason you’re pissed at Jeff isn’t because you think he recasted your masks. It’s because he publicly humiliated you by telling the truth. As for you, VF80, are you SERIOUSLY saying that Richard Brooker knows what the fuck he’s talking about? He’s a washed up alcoholic who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. He doesn’t give a fuck about the fans. If he did, he would show some appreciation toward them at conventions instead of getting drunk and being a dick to them. He thought Crash’s part 3 paint-up was the fucking screen used mask! You don’t believe me? Look it up on Youtube. Also, just because you’ve painted over 30 masks and have a table at a convention doesn’t make you any better than the next guy. That’s you subtly bragging and trying to get recognition hoping that someone will look you up and buy your masks. You’re trying to gain notoriety by kissing Ken’s ass in hopes that he’ll let you be one of his artists so people will notice you. It’s all about money for you people. Whatever happened to painting masks SOLELY because you enjoy it? Why not try having a few giveaways every now and then? Show some appreciation for the fans instead of raping their fucking wallets.

]]> By: vf80 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135797 vf80 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:42:05 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135797 Furthermore, in 27 years, how are you going to prove where you worked? You gonna have a big sign and pictures, and video evidence? No, it'll be a line on a resume, if that. What if you do something, an save a spreadsheet, on outfit, a discovery, whatever, that years later, is worth some money or others would benefit from, you think you're the only one that will lay claim to it. How will you prove its yours? Will you, or will you put it out there, and say hey, I helped do this, and I still have it, for a couple bucks you can do the same, or hey I have a site and some great people who can do it for you or help you do it on your own. Whats wrong with that? What if a coworker makes claims no one can prove and gets some press for it? What then. This whole debate is old and tired, and the people who throw all this negativity out there is a joke. Sit online and bash people, for something you never did, and know nothing about. What have you ever done that makes your worthy of discounting someone else's life? Worry about yourself, if you don't believe someone else, don't buy their product or support them. Grow up. Furthermore, in 27 years, how are you going to prove where you worked? You gonna have a big sign and pictures, and video evidence? No, it’ll be a line on a resume, if that. What if you do something, an save a spreadsheet, on outfit, a discovery, whatever, that years later, is worth some money or others would benefit from, you think you’re the only one that will lay claim to it. How will you prove its yours? Will you, or will you put it out there, and say hey, I helped do this, and I still have it, for a couple bucks you can do the same, or hey I have a site and some great people who can do it for you or help you do it on your own. Whats wrong with that? What if a coworker makes claims no one can prove and gets some press for it? What then. This whole debate is old and tired, and the people who throw all this negativity out there is a joke. Sit online and bash people, for something you never did, and know nothing about. What have you ever done that makes your worthy of discounting someone else’s life? Worry about yourself, if you don’t believe someone else, don’t buy their product or support them. Grow up.

]]> By: vf80 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135792 vf80 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:04:48 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135792 I lso had a nice long talk with Richard Brooker at mm12, and he brought up Ken in a Q&A, and was involved in Ken's creation of the brooker1 bust and hood, pretty sure the guy who played Jason in that movie, and has know reason to lie, knows wtf he is talking about. He had FS masks on his table as well. I lso had a nice long talk with Richard Brooker at mm12, and he brought up Ken in a Q&A, and was involved in Ken’s creation of the brooker1 bust and hood, pretty sure the guy who played Jason in that movie, and has know reason to lie, knows wtf he is talking about. He had FS masks on his table as well.

]]> By: vf80 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135791 vf80 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:02:25 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135791 You know, its a sad sad day when people resort to name calling bs to try and prove how big they think their balls are on the internet. Here is a professional fx man who has taken his time to offer a premium product to fans, a forum to support it with great artists who offer there help to fans trying to paint their own, and is always open and available to speak with his customers as his time allows. If you don\'t believe, so what? Don\'t buy his masks. And saying the FS forum is full of people who think they paint masks, get bent. People buy blanks and paint them up and show them to other users there to show their work, its called having a fun hobby, not pretending you are a professional mask painter. What is a professional mask painter? Is there a union for such things now? Seriously, I paint masks all the time and am not an FS artist, and don\'t claim to be a pro, but have painted about 30 or so now, and have a table to vend at a convention, does that make me a hack? How do I become a pro, do I get a card with that membership? Grow up, the people that have talked shit about Ken did so to make money, and created this whole situation to sell their recasts. And he didn\'t record phone conversations, he has a message stating how due to timing he missed the latest release and will be featured on the new boxset. You know what, its not even worth it. Have fun pulling someone\'s name through the mud, hope you\'re proud of your internet balls, and you feel good about yourselves. PATHETIC. You know, its a sad sad day when people resort to name calling bs to try and prove how big they think their balls are on the internet. Here is a professional fx man who has taken his time to offer a premium product to fans, a forum to support it with great artists who offer there help to fans trying to paint their own, and is always open and available to speak with his customers as his time allows. If you don\’t believe, so what? Don\’t buy his masks. And saying the FS forum is full of people who think they paint masks, get bent. People buy blanks and paint them up and show them to other users there to show their work, its called having a fun hobby, not pretending you are a professional mask painter. What is a professional mask painter? Is there a union for such things now? Seriously, I paint masks all the time and am not an FS artist, and don\’t claim to be a pro, but have painted about 30 or so now, and have a table to vend at a convention, does that make me a hack? How do I become a pro, do I get a card with that membership? Grow up, the people that have talked shit about Ken did so to make money, and created this whole situation to sell their recasts. And he didn\’t record phone conversations, he has a message stating how due to timing he missed the latest release and will be featured on the new boxset. You know what, its not even worth it. Have fun pulling someone\’s name through the mud, hope you\’re proud of your internet balls, and you feel good about yourselves. PATHETIC.

]]> By: Ken Tarallo http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135687 Ken Tarallo Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:29:19 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135687 I understand what some of you are saying, but most of the facts stated here by some of the posters is wrong, I have been selling these since 1988 I have proof so saying I just came into the field is just mistaken, there is nothing odd bout anything I say I am defending myself, as for law suits that is taking place, time will tell.. and the conversations are messages left on my phone, I did not tape anyone.. they just left messages.. you see that is my point you guys just try to find a accuse and exploit it, when you have no facts and totally miss read something or thought something different, that is why I am so upset, anyone can have an opinion and I support that, but please do not speculate.. as this damages someone's character, as for JDF that is no one business, but he has never been bullied by me....it will be public soon.. If you think Doug created the mask? then why hasn't he contacted me for fraud? because he knows I could have worked on the mask, there where many guys who worked on this mask I have NEVER said I created it all, I have always said it was a group effort ... That is how we work in the industry.. People are bashing me because they wanted to sell a product thinking I make tons of money, but in reality with my time I dont make that much.. SO you may believe what you want, I just want to say my 2 cents.. BUt I will say agin I own the original mold that I created... think about this why is every mark in my mask in the part 3 movie?? remember Doug said his mold went missing and my mask was NOT from his mold??? think...... That is all I ask.. and for the no credit listing, I had credit listed on IMDB for many uears for Friday the 13th as special effects along with Martin Becker, but since I only did a little part I took it down.. all my facts can be proven by people still in the industry.. so in court I win.. in your minds maybe changed or not we will see... but please don't bash my name unless you know facts... That is all I am asking regards Ken I understand what some of you are saying, but most of the facts stated here by some of the posters is wrong, I have been selling these since 1988 I have proof so saying I just came into the field is just mistaken, there is nothing odd bout anything I say I am defending myself, as for law suits that is taking place, time will tell.. and the conversations are messages left on my phone, I did not tape anyone.. they just left messages.. you see that is my point you guys just try to find a accuse and exploit it, when you have no facts and totally miss read something or thought something different, that is why I am so upset, anyone can have an opinion and I support that, but please do not speculate.. as this damages someone’s character, as for JDF that is no one business, but he has never been bullied by me….it will be public soon..

If you think Doug created the mask? then why hasn’t he contacted me for fraud? because he knows I could have worked on the mask, there where many guys who worked on this mask I have NEVER said I created it all, I have always said it was a group effort …
That is how we work in the industry..
People are bashing me because they wanted to sell a product thinking I make tons of money, but in reality with my time I dont make that much..

SO you may believe what you want, I just want to say my 2 cents..
BUt I will say agin I own the original mold that I created… think about this why is every mark in my mask in the part 3 movie?? remember Doug said his mold went missing and my mask was NOT from his mold??? think…… That is all I ask..

and for the no credit listing, I had credit listed on IMDB for many uears for Friday the 13th as special effects along with Martin Becker, but since I only did a little part I took it down..
all my facts can be proven by people still in the industry.. so in court I win.. in your minds maybe changed or not we will see…
but please don’t bash my name unless you know facts… That is all I am asking
regards
Ken

]]> By: Boul http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135565 Boul Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:09:27 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135565 Here's my two cents. There's plenty of reasons to doubt Ken Tarallo. I wouldn't call the guy a fraud though. The guy has to put food on his table just like the rest of us. Mask makers have been claiming their masks were cast off of, or from the movie molds, for years now. Ken may be a pro FX guy, but if you hit up cons, and don't take this personal Ken, these pro FX guys who sell masks and other props just want to make some money. At shows you'll see FX guys making up some bullshit to sell you something. If you're an average fan you buy it, those who are into this shit can spot the bull. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make some money, so I don't see Ken Tarallo doing any wrong. If you're a fan and you're spending money on this stuff, just educate yourself about what you think you're buying. Do I believe Ken??? Fuck no! I believe Douglas J.White is the mask creator. There's no reason to doubt the guy. I think Ken got a mold from within his biz, or maybe he copied a mask from one of the films, and now he's just trying to make some money. Who cares, move on, better things to do. Boul Here’s my two cents. There’s plenty of reasons to doubt Ken Tarallo. I wouldn’t call the guy a fraud though. The guy has to put food on his table just like the rest of us. Mask makers have been claiming their masks were cast off of, or from the movie molds, for years now. Ken may be a pro FX guy, but if you hit up cons, and don’t take this personal Ken, these pro FX guys who sell masks and other props just want to make some money. At shows you’ll see FX guys making up some bullshit to sell you something. If you’re an average fan you buy it, those who are into this shit can spot the bull. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to make some money, so I don’t see Ken Tarallo doing any wrong. If you’re a fan and you’re spending money on this stuff, just educate yourself about what you think you’re buying. Do I believe Ken??? Fuck no! I believe Douglas J.White is the mask creator. There’s no reason to doubt the guy. I think Ken got a mold from within his biz, or maybe he copied a mask from one of the films, and now he’s just trying to make some money. Who cares, move on, better things to do.

Boul

]]> By: BlendedMESS http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135511 BlendedMESS Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:16:56 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135511 This is an interesting debate. I'm not going to take a side here, but I've never heard of Ken Tarallo until reading this. My friend emailed me this and asked that I check it out, so I'll have my say and leave you guys to it. I can't find anything saying Ken worked on a Friday the 13th film. All the books and other docs credit Douglas J.White and others with the creation of the mask. Looking at Ken's imdb there's no doubt that he works in the SFX biz, but I don't see Friday the 13th listed as a credit...? It's not uncommon not to be credited, but I'm sure someone would remember who made the mask, so what Ken claims should be easy to prove, or disprove... In his name was jason it was joked how everyone wants to claim they created the mask, well Ken can just be one of these guys. He has a mask mold, but so do a lot of people it seems, and you're not going to tell one mold from the next. Again, not taking a side, but I wanted to point out a few things. Ken there's two things you said that I found a bit odd, I just want to comment on them since they're bugging me. "I am not afraid to show my name like all you guys are..." The way you come off here seems..well, it's strange, it's like you want to know who people are so you can fight with them. It's like you're calling them cowards also. It's the internet bro, people have names they go by. I don't think a person here is going to post thier full name for everyone to see. Do that and you'll find yourself spammed from here till christmas. "oh and by the way, I have tapped recorded proof about many things jeff accuses me of lying about.. call me if you want to hear them…" This one is really odd...Are you talking about phone calls? If so, why record conversations? Why even admit that!? That's kind of illegal bro. It does seem like you have a lot to prove, even though you say you're not out to, you seem to want to. As for jeff/jdf. I checked out his site and he seems to have put himself out of business. His blogs say the fighting between himself and frightstuff got him fed up. To me those are the actions of a beaten man, so maybe there's a little truth to some bullying going on. Is jeff/jdf a recaster? Since the original mask was a copy of another I don't see a crime in it, so saying jeff/jdf is a recaster is like one thief calling the other the same. That's my take on this. BM (Sorry I'm not giving my name) This is an interesting debate. I’m not going to take a side here, but I’ve never heard of Ken Tarallo until reading this. My friend emailed me this and asked that I check it out, so I’ll have my say and leave you guys to it.

I can’t find anything saying Ken worked on a Friday the 13th film. All the books and other docs credit Douglas J.White and others with the creation of the mask.

Looking at Ken’s imdb there’s no doubt that he works in the SFX biz, but I don’t see Friday the 13th listed as a credit…? It’s not uncommon not to be credited, but I’m sure someone would remember who made the mask, so what Ken claims should be easy to prove, or disprove…

In his name was jason it was joked how everyone wants to claim they created the mask, well Ken can just be one of these guys. He has a mask mold, but so do a lot of people it seems, and you’re not going to tell one mold from the next.

Again, not taking a side, but I wanted to point out a few things.

Ken there’s two things you said that I found a bit odd, I just want to comment on them since they’re bugging me.

“I am not afraid to show my name like all you guys are…”

The way you come off here seems..well, it’s strange, it’s like you want to know who people are so you can fight with them. It’s like you’re calling them cowards also. It’s the internet bro, people have names they go by. I don’t think a person here is going to post thier full name for everyone to see. Do that and you’ll find yourself spammed from here till christmas.

“oh and by the way, I have tapped recorded proof about many things jeff accuses me of lying about.. call me if you want to hear them…”

This one is really odd…Are you talking about phone calls? If so, why record conversations? Why even admit that!? That’s kind of illegal bro. It does seem like you have a lot to prove, even though you say you’re not out to, you seem to want to.

As for jeff/jdf. I checked out his site and he seems to have put himself out of business. His blogs say the fighting between himself and frightstuff got him fed up. To me those are the actions of a beaten man, so maybe there’s a little truth to some bullying going on. Is jeff/jdf a recaster? Since the original mask was a copy of another I don’t see a crime in it, so saying jeff/jdf is a recaster is like one thief calling the other the same.

That’s my take on this.

BM (Sorry I’m not giving my name)

]]> By: Mike http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135503 Mike Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:17:53 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135503 What I find interesting here is a few guys point out that Ken is a liar and a fraud, then people start bashing JDF...JDF has been feuding with fright stuff for a while, so I'm thinking some fright stuff guys found this old blog and decided to take a few more punches at the guy?? Maybe I'm missing something, but who really cares about JDF anyway? If his masks are recasts Ken should just sue him...is that a problem? Ken did say he owned rights to these masks, so just sue the shit out of him and make a point. I for one don't believe Ken what so ever. If Ken created this mask it should be real easy to prove. I remember when Ken started selling these masks, and it wasn't 1988, it was around 2004 -2005. Anyone who's a mask collector knows the deal with hock replicas. Accurate masks started appearing online when Cropsy, who recasted a part 6 screen used, started selling them. Others who had screen masks started doing the same, and other people started recasting the recasters. There was no Ken Tarallo. Go to any mask collecting community and just ask their long time members about Ken. A lot of communities are actually sick of the debate, so watch how you ask. I also remember Ken's collector's find site. The masks he sold back then (2005) where different from what you buy now, but apparently all from the same movie mold. My friend owns two Frightstuff masks, an older one purchased around 2005 -2006, and one purchased just last year..the older mask is much bigger, and there's a dent in the mouth area. The shape of the mask seems a bit different as well. Obviously Ken is using two molds, Don't know what this means, but I always thought there was one movie mold, and Ken had it. There's a lot of bull going around, and I just think Ken's stories don't add up. Flame me all you want, but until a film producer or other FX guys who actually worked on these films say yeah Ken did it, I'm not going to buy what Ken says. To sum things up here. I don't believe Ken, and I think he's taking fans for a ride. I've seen all the drama unfold over the years, and I also think fright stuff are bullies when it comes to these masks. To bring up my friend again, the mask he purchased last year, my friend painted this mask up and sold it on ebay. My friend listed the mask as from the movie mold, but he did not say it was a fright stuff mask. Days after he listed the mask for sale he got two emails from frightstuff guys telling him he was selling an illegal knockoff, one told him to remove the listing or be reported...now wtf is that!? I'll never buy a thing from fright stuff, in fact my mask collecting days are over because there's way too much bs all around this hobby. MIKE What I find interesting here is a few guys point out that Ken is a liar and a fraud, then people start bashing JDF…JDF has been feuding with fright stuff for a while, so I’m thinking some fright stuff guys found this old blog and decided to take a few more punches at the guy??

Maybe I’m missing something, but who really cares about JDF anyway? If his masks are recasts Ken should just sue him…is that a problem? Ken did say he owned rights to these masks, so just sue the shit out of him and make a point.

I for one don’t believe Ken what so ever. If Ken created this mask it should be real easy to prove. I remember when Ken started selling these masks, and it wasn’t 1988, it was around 2004 -2005. Anyone who’s a mask collector knows the deal with hock replicas. Accurate masks started appearing online when Cropsy, who recasted a part 6 screen used, started selling them. Others who had screen masks started doing the same, and other people started recasting the recasters. There was no Ken Tarallo. Go to any mask collecting community and just ask their long time members about Ken. A lot of communities are actually sick of the debate, so watch how you ask.

I also remember Ken’s collector’s find site. The masks he sold back then (2005) where different from what you buy now, but apparently all from the same movie mold. My friend owns two Frightstuff masks, an older one purchased around 2005 -2006, and one purchased just last year..the older mask is much bigger, and there’s a dent in the mouth area. The shape of the mask seems a bit different as well. Obviously Ken is using two molds, Don’t know what this means, but I always thought there was one movie mold, and Ken had it.

There’s a lot of bull going around, and I just think Ken’s stories don’t add up. Flame me all you want, but until a film producer or other FX guys who actually worked on these films say yeah Ken did it, I’m not going to buy what Ken says.

To sum things up here. I don’t believe Ken, and I think he’s taking fans for a ride. I’ve seen all the drama unfold over the years, and I also think fright stuff are bullies when it comes to these masks. To bring up my friend again, the mask he purchased last year, my friend painted this mask up and sold it on ebay. My friend listed the mask as from the movie mold, but he did not say it was a fright stuff mask. Days after he listed the mask for sale he got two emails from frightstuff guys telling him he was selling an illegal knockoff, one told him to remove the listing or be reported…now wtf is that!? I’ll never buy a thing from fright stuff, in fact my mask collecting days are over because there’s way too much bs all around this hobby.

MIKE

]]> By: Ken Tarallo http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135446 Ken Tarallo Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:09:16 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135446 Now that people are back stabbing me on this blog I have something to say.. How can I be a fraud? are any of you in the business? you can call my union to see how long I have been doing motion picture special effects not hard to do if you care that is, and I have nothing to prove, lets say you guys dont believe me ok fine, but I brought this product out into the general public years ago 1988 (That is proven fact) I have had this mold since 1982, ok look at all the masks that have come out after I did, they are all copies of my product.. so how can someone like Jeff D Flynn aka JDF say I am a fraud, lier and whatever he goes on about, when he copied my product??? Hmmm this is all about money folks .... How can any one of you people call me a fraud, a tool or? when you dont know me, you are not in the business,, and I am not afraid to show my name like all you guys are.. call me and prove to me that you know I am a fake... Jeff Flynn is a sad little boy, dont be fooled.. but if you dont believe me that fine go on about your business, but please dont discredit me without proof.. I am the only FX professional that has ever given this much time to fans of any movie... now I know why my Peers have never gone through with this... Jeff and a few are spreading lies and mistruths.. oh and by the way, I have tapped recorded proof about many things jeff accuses me of lying about.. call me if you want to hear them... I want to set the record straight no more lies being spread about me... and dont believe people who dont even know what they are saying. and another thing wouldn't you go after thieves that stole your product?, so all you guys who call me a bully.. you are just mislead people plain and simple.. and I have always been polite to all my customers.. and the ones who are upset are the guys that steal..... you guys are ruining the business not me or my site, I brought you the mask in the first place.. even if you don't believe me that doesn't change the proven fact... and I am the only professional fx man selling these.. you are right it is a shame, it's people like you that are a shame... and if anyone really wants to talk to me about it you can call me anytime.. regards Ken Now that people are back stabbing me on this blog I have something to say..
How can I be a fraud? are any of you in the business? you can call my union to see how long I have been doing motion picture special effects not hard to do if you care that is, and I have nothing to prove, lets say you guys dont believe me ok fine, but I brought this product out into the general public years ago 1988 (That is proven fact) I have had this mold since 1982, ok look at all the masks that have come out after I did, they are all copies of my product.. so how can someone like Jeff D Flynn aka JDF say I am a fraud, lier and whatever he goes on about, when he copied my product??? Hmmm this is all about money folks ….
How can any one of you people call me a fraud, a tool or? when you dont know me, you are not in the business,,
and I am not afraid to show my name like all you guys are..
call me and prove to me that you know I am a fake… Jeff Flynn is a sad little boy, dont be fooled.. but if you dont believe me that fine go on about your business, but please dont discredit me without proof.. I am the only FX professional that has ever given this much time to fans of any movie… now I know why my Peers have never gone through with this…

Jeff and a few are spreading lies and mistruths..
oh and by the way, I have tapped recorded proof about many things jeff accuses me of lying about.. call me if you want to hear them… I want to set the record straight no more lies being spread about me… and dont believe people who dont even know what they are saying.

and another thing wouldn’t you go after thieves that stole your product?, so all you guys who call me a bully.. you are just mislead people plain and simple.. and I have always been polite to all my customers.. and the ones who are upset are the guys that steal….. you guys are ruining the business not me or my site, I brought you the mask in the first place.. even if you don’t believe me that doesn’t change the proven fact… and I am the only professional fx man selling these..
you are right it is a shame, it’s people like you that are a shame… and if anyone really wants to talk to me about it you can call me anytime..
regards
Ken

]]> By: Truth http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135436 Truth Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:07:40 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135436 Ken Tarallo is a fraud and a bully. He calls his customers backstabbers when they buy other masks instead of his. He also believes that his *PART 7 MOLD* is the original part 3. WHAT A TOOL! He forced JDF out of the business with his cronies and his petty bullshit. The hockey mask world is going to shit these days and the root of it is a man named Ken Tarallo. You will all see when it comes to light one day. Ken Tarallo is a fraud and a bully. He calls his customers backstabbers when they buy other masks instead of his. He also believes that his *PART 7 MOLD* is the original part 3. WHAT A TOOL! He forced JDF out of the business with his cronies and his petty bullshit. The hockey mask world is going to shit these days and the root of it is a man named Ken Tarallo. You will all see when it comes to light one day.

]]> By: Clownnation http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135427 Clownnation Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:34:16 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135427 Hi all, Wow what a long running thread. This debate has gone in circles on various forums for a while now. Usually stirred up by the same people. As a member of the FRIGHTSTUFF MOD team, I have no interest in arguing this. I believe Ken, if you dont, then that is your buisness, and thats fine... doesnt bother me a bit... However I would urge you all to go to Ken's site and read his side of the story, then decide for yourself. Witty insults don't mean you win, it just means we dont use a great forum like this one to bash people. Lets use Fridaythe13th.com/blog for what it is, a fun and knowledgeable place to have a good time and talk to others about the films we all love. remember to have fun everyone! I do :) Jasonsfury, I agree with you 100%, it used to be hard to find a quality Hockey mask. (people use to charge like $250 for recasted masks like 10 years ago) Now we have the most screen accurate Hocks and Latex Undermasks to choice from. I think it's a great time to be a Friday the 13th replica collector! cheers to fridaythe13thfilms.com! Hi all,

Wow what a long running thread.

This debate has gone in circles on various forums for a while now. Usually stirred up by the same people. As a member of the FRIGHTSTUFF MOD team, I have no interest in arguing this. I believe Ken, if you dont, then that is your buisness, and thats fine… doesnt bother me a bit… However I would urge you all to go to Ken’s site and read his side of the story, then decide for yourself. Witty insults don’t mean you win, it just means we dont use a great forum like this one to bash people.

Lets use Fridaythe13th.com/blog for what it is, a fun and knowledgeable place to have a good time and talk to others about the films we all love. remember to have fun everyone! I do :)

Jasonsfury,

I agree with you 100%, it used to be hard to find a quality Hockey mask. (people use to charge like $250 for recasted masks like 10 years ago)
Now we have the most screen accurate Hocks and Latex Undermasks to choice from. I think it’s a great time to be a Friday the 13th replica collector!

cheers to fridaythe13thfilms.com!

]]> By: jasonsfury http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135420 jasonsfury Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:49:50 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135420 I am still simply amazed that this topic has continued on since I added this blog posting. It is an interesting story of he said, he said. We simply may never know exactly who did what on Part 3 as there are a lot of different stories being told by all parties through different interviews in different media. It's great to discuss, however. I think in the end, great masks are being made. These screen accurate masks are unbelievable compared to what was offered 10 years ago. I say great job to everyone involved in getting these out to the fans. "JDF copies Ken's masks", interesting information.... I am still simply amazed that this topic has continued on since I added this blog posting. It is an interesting story of he said, he said. We simply may never know exactly who did what on Part 3 as there are a lot of different stories being told by all parties through different interviews in different media.

It’s great to discuss, however. I think in the end, great masks are being made. These screen accurate masks are unbelievable compared to what was offered 10 years ago. I say great job to everyone involved in getting these out to the fans.

“JDF copies Ken’s masks”, interesting information….

]]> By: JasonfanXXX http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135404 JasonfanXXX Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:04:09 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135404 JDF paints a SICK part 6! If you are in the market for one, then I suggest JDF. however, If he is copying Ken's mask then that makes him a hypocrit. But no denying the artwork. The part 6 is amazing. RUSTE DOWG is still a frightstuff artist and I would put his mask paint jobs on par with anyone else. So I dont think its fair to say that frightstuff doesnt have quality artists. Lubatti is also there but I think he mostly does latex masks there. Lubatti has masks that will blow your mind! Clownnation is pretty good and dedkid is very creative and passionate. I see nothing but quality from Frightstuff. Very nice forums too, they have lots of fun there. Ken actually encourages people to paint his masks, he even tells you how to do it. Most forums will flame you if you ask for help. Not sure who's story to believe because I dont know enough about it. But wouldnt ken be shut down if he was this blatenlly lying? JDF paints a SICK part 6! If you are in the market for one, then I suggest JDF.

however, If he is copying Ken’s mask then that makes him a hypocrit. But no denying the artwork. The part 6 is amazing.

RUSTE DOWG is still a frightstuff artist and I would put his mask paint jobs on par with anyone else. So I dont think its fair to say that frightstuff doesnt have quality artists. Lubatti is also there but I think he mostly does latex masks there. Lubatti has masks that will blow your mind!

Clownnation is pretty good and dedkid is very creative and passionate. I see nothing but quality from Frightstuff. Very nice forums too, they have lots of fun there. Ken actually encourages people to paint his masks, he even tells you how to do it. Most forums will flame you if you ask for help.

Not sure who’s story to believe because I dont know enough about it. But wouldnt ken be shut down if he was this blatenlly lying?

]]> By: Jasonfan1 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135403 Jasonfan1 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:52:16 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135403 Yeah I've seen JDF on other forums. Seems to be more of an flame starter than anything. I've read these debates for a while. I know that just because a guy helped make one prop, doesnt mean that he worked on set or will be credited. So I see no reason to believe that Ken wasn't part of the mask process. Ken's story seems to hold up better than most. Too bad there is such controversy. Frightstuff is probably the best collecting forum out there. 99% of the users are friendly and fun. It's like the only forum that ISNT full of people cussing each other out or name calling. Yeah I’ve seen JDF on other forums. Seems to be more of an flame starter than anything.

I’ve read these debates for a while. I know that just because a guy helped make one prop, doesnt mean that he worked on set or will be credited. So I see no reason to believe that Ken wasn’t part of the mask process.

Ken’s story seems to hold up better than most. Too bad there is such controversy. Frightstuff is probably the best collecting forum out there. 99% of the users are friendly and fun. It’s like the only forum that ISNT full of people cussing each other out or name calling.

]]> By: JDF copies Ken's masks http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-135388 JDF copies Ken's masks Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:10:55 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-135388 Ken Tarallo helped make the mold guys... He has recorded conversations with Paramount regarding his involvement in an upcoming boxset. I know, I know, someone is about to flame me and say its a lie... But whatever. One of the posters in this thread is JDF himself. (but he wont use his name) He calls Ken a fraud, yet his mask blanks that JDF uses are copied from one of KEN'S. Just because you dont believe Ken, doesnt give you the right to steal his blank and make money off it. Ken had someone buy one of JDF's blanks, and it fits his mold perfectly, including the slight imperfections. JDF is mad at Ken because when JDF was a featured artist he used to call people like Justin Mabry and others the same names he now calls Ken. But last Halloween JDF had a huge sale on his frightstuff paint ups, and gaurunteed shipping by Halloween (he made promises to customers before having any masks on hand) He placed a large order with Ken and Ken got behind on orders, due to his 7 day work week on the TV show HEROs. Ken made some mistakes with JDF and said he sent masks but didnt... anyway JDF was left holding the back and didnt deliver on his promised deliever so his customers got mad and demanded thier money back... JDF then launched a war against Ken (keep in mind that JDF alreay had seen the Doug White Interview, but was content to still work for Frightstuff as an artist. He didnt start the witch hunt to bring down Ken until he lost alot of money, for making promises that he was ill-prepared for) Of course JDF will never tell you this. Ken helped make the mold guys. He told me about the clear plastic and paint on the inside years ago. But he was asked to not make clear blanks, because that way the copies can be told apart from the screen used. People try to pass off copies as real deal in auctions all the time, Ken is super helpful on his forum and will bend over backwards for his friends. It sucks that instead of talking to Ken rationally, people go to forums and cuss him out and fabricate parts of the story. Ken Tarallo helped make the mold guys…

He has recorded conversations with Paramount regarding his involvement in an upcoming boxset. I know, I know, someone is about to flame me and say its a lie… But whatever.

One of the posters in this thread is JDF himself. (but he wont use his name) He calls Ken a fraud, yet his mask blanks that JDF uses are copied from one of KEN’S. Just because you dont believe Ken, doesnt give you the right to steal his blank and make money off it.

Ken had someone buy one of JDF’s blanks, and it fits his mold perfectly, including the slight imperfections.

JDF is mad at Ken because when JDF was a featured artist he used to call people like Justin Mabry and others the same names he now calls Ken. But last Halloween JDF had a huge sale on his frightstuff paint ups, and gaurunteed shipping by Halloween (he made promises to customers before having any masks on hand) He placed a large order with Ken and Ken got behind on orders, due to his 7 day work week on the TV show HEROs. Ken made some mistakes with JDF and said he sent masks but didnt… anyway JDF was left holding the back and didnt deliver on his promised deliever so his customers got mad and demanded thier money back… JDF then launched a war against Ken (keep in mind that JDF alreay had seen the Doug White Interview, but was content to still work for Frightstuff as an artist. He didnt start the witch hunt to bring down Ken until he lost alot of money, for making promises that he was ill-prepared for)

Of course JDF will never tell you this.

Ken helped make the mold guys. He told me about the clear plastic and paint on the inside years ago. But he was asked to not make clear blanks, because that way the copies can be told apart from the screen used. People try to pass off copies as real deal in auctions all the time,

Ken is super helpful on his forum and will bend over backwards for his friends. It sucks that instead of talking to Ken rationally, people go to forums and cuss him out and fabricate parts of the story.

]]> By: Johnho http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-134289 Johnho Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:11:07 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-134289 frightstuff has good masks but don t support a fraud. As discussed by others here ken tarallo is not the mask creator. i checked out frightstuff today after I found this article. Reading the forums made me upset because so much people are falling for ken tarallo s lie. it s very easy to see that ken tarallo is lying about creating the mask. i m a fan of these movies for a long time. ken tarallo should be ashamed of himself. JOHNNY HO frightstuff has good masks but don t support a fraud. As discussed by others here ken tarallo is not the mask creator. i checked out frightstuff today after I found this article. Reading the forums made me upset because so much people are falling for ken tarallo s lie. it s very easy to see that ken tarallo is lying about creating the mask. i m a fan of these movies for a long time. ken tarallo should be ashamed of himself.

JOHNNY HO

]]> By: JacoBB http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-2/#comment-133179 JacoBB Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:29:06 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-133179 Well the new DVD's are out...No Ken Tarallo featured. Frightstuff fanboys like hevymentl13 need to shut the fuck up and get a clue. Ken Tarallo had nothing to with Friday the 13th. Face it. Ken lied to you guys to sell more masks. Ken said that he would be included on these new DVD's, and that he and Daniel Farrands are friends, and Daniel knows all about Ken creating the mask...those are Ken's words. Yet Doug White is featured on the part 3 DVD and talks about how HE made the mask, and Ken is no where on the 4 5 & 6 DVD's. Ken Tarallo is a fucking liar and a fraud! What do you have to say hevymentl13? I know it's been awhile, but you must feel like a real jackass, I mean it's pretty obvious that Tarallo is a liar. At this point you have to be a real fool to still believe this guy created the mask. Regardless if Ken's masks are quality or not, the fact is this man has lied to the fans. He deceived us so that he could make money. We shouldn't be giving this conman one dollar of our money. Well the new DVD’s are out…No Ken Tarallo featured. Frightstuff fanboys like hevymentl13 need to shut the fuck up and get a clue. Ken Tarallo had nothing to with Friday the 13th. Face it. Ken lied to you guys to sell more masks.

Ken said that he would be included on these new DVD’s, and that he and Daniel Farrands are friends, and Daniel knows all about Ken creating the mask…those are Ken’s words. Yet Doug White is featured on the part 3 DVD and talks about how HE made the mask, and Ken is no where on the 4 5 & 6 DVD’s. Ken Tarallo is a fucking liar and a fraud!

What do you have to say hevymentl13? I know it’s been awhile, but you must feel like a real jackass, I mean it’s pretty obvious that Tarallo is a liar. At this point you have to be a real fool to still believe this guy created the mask.

Regardless if Ken’s masks are quality or not, the fact is this man has lied to the fans. He deceived us so that he could make money. We shouldn’t be giving this conman one dollar of our money.

]]> By: Got-Yer-Boy-Hanging http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/professionally-made-authentic-looking-hockey-masks/comment-page-1/#comment-128470 Got-Yer-Boy-Hanging Sat, 30 May 2009 03:30:21 +0000 http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/?p=1738#comment-128470 Frightstuff.com, a site where Ken Tarallo, a washed up never was sells blank hockey masks, from a movie he claims to have worked on but never actually did. Frightstuff is a joke. The high end artists bailed on Ken when it became clear the guy was a fraud, just ask any of the former artists what they think of Ken. The site is now run by kids and losers who think they're big time artists, and of course one old conman who hides behind his career as a jobber in the FX industry, but since Tarallo and his artists bullied all their competition out of business, why not buy from them? Anyone reading this stuff, don't buy from Frightstuff or their so called artists. It sucks because where else can you buy a good hock? Well the days of good hock makers are over, maybe when people see Ken's a lying sack of shit the good makers will come back. Oh, heavymentle13. I read your post on frightstuff, want to exchange paypal info? Because I'll bet you $1,000 that Ken ain't going to be on those new part 4 5 6 dvds, like he says he is. I'm sure he'll have a good excuse too when he's asked why again he wasn't included. Frightstuff.com, a site where Ken Tarallo, a washed up never was sells blank hockey masks, from a movie he claims to have worked on but never actually did. Frightstuff is a joke. The high end artists bailed on Ken when it became clear the guy was a fraud, just ask any of the former artists what they think of Ken. The site is now run by kids and losers who think they’re big time artists, and of course one old conman who hides behind his career as a jobber in the FX industry, but since Tarallo and his artists bullied all their competition out of business, why not buy from them?

Anyone reading this stuff, don’t buy from Frightstuff or their so called artists. It sucks because where else can you buy a good hock? Well the days of good hock makers are over, maybe when people see Ken’s a lying sack of shit the good makers will come back.

Oh, heavymentle13. I read your post on frightstuff, want to exchange paypal info? Because I’ll bet you $1,000 that Ken ain’t going to be on those new part 4 5 6 dvds, like he says he is. I’m sure he’ll have a good excuse too when he’s asked why again he wasn’t included.

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