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	<title>Comments on: Friday the 13th part 2: Deluxe Edition reviewed</title>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-43315</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, Dobbs and Balooeyezz, you&#039;re all three completely full of it. I read all of the comments and links... Tom is right, plain and simple. You had to have known he was at some point... As Michael said, this whole thing was proven with out a doubt at the Friday Blu Ray Framing Issue post. Here&#039;s the link http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, Dobbs and Balooeyezz, you&#8217;re all three completely full of it. I read all of the comments and links&#8230; Tom is right, plain and simple. You had to have known he was at some point&#8230; As Michael said, this whole thing was proven with out a doubt at the Friday Blu Ray Framing Issue post. Here&#8217;s the link <a href="http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/" rel="nofollow">http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-blu-ray-framing-issue/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-37512</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the dvds being cropped, was proven over at the &quot;Friday Blu-Ray Framing Issue&quot; post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the dvds being cropped, was proven over at the &#8220;Friday Blu-Ray Framing Issue&#8221; post.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-34175</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balooeyezz, you&#039;re full of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balooeyezz, you&#8217;re full of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: vile33</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-33082</link>
		<dc:creator>vile33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youre right....it was Ultra Panavison i was thinking of...ie. Ben Hur and Battle of the Bulge...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youre right&#8230;.it was Ultra Panavison i was thinking of&#8230;ie. Ben Hur and Battle of the Bulge&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Balooeyezz</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-32577</link>
		<dc:creator>Balooeyezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vile33 - I think you might be thinking of another type of widescreen.  Vistavision didn&#039;t have a ratio of 2.70:1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision

&quot;VistaVision could be shown at any widescreen aspect ratio from 1.66 to 2:00:1.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vile33 &#8211; I think you might be thinking of another type of widescreen.  Vistavision didn&#8217;t have a ratio of 2.70:1.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision</a></p>
<p>&#8220;VistaVision could be shown at any widescreen aspect ratio from 1.66 to 2:00:1.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: vile33</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-32520</link>
		<dc:creator>vile33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who needs 1:85:1 and 2:35:1....Bring back VISTAVISON!!!! 2:70:1 !!!!! 

..oh...and and a &quot;nuts to you&quot; goes to crapamount for NOT restoring the F13 films to their uncut form. With so many DVDs unrated these days....there&#039;s no excuse. Since i own the original releases anyway, i will not be buying the Deluxe Versions...given that i own a PC and have a Video Store down the street from me :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who needs 1:85:1 and 2:35:1&#8230;.Bring back VISTAVISON!!!! 2:70:1 !!!!! </p>
<p>..oh&#8230;and and a &#8220;nuts to you&#8221; goes to crapamount for NOT restoring the F13 films to their uncut form. With so many DVDs unrated these days&#8230;.there&#8217;s no excuse. Since i own the original releases anyway, i will not be buying the Deluxe Versions&#8230;given that i own a PC and have a Video Store down the street from me <img src='http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The English Fanbase</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-30675</link>
		<dc:creator>The English Fanbase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody else noticed the photo on the rear of the new Part 2 dvd? It looks like a cut scene of Paul&#039;s death, but I&#039;ve never seen it or any like it anywhere else. Can anybody shed any light on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody else noticed the photo on the rear of the new Part 2 dvd? It looks like a cut scene of Paul&#8217;s death, but I&#8217;ve never seen it or any like it anywhere else. Can anybody shed any light on this?</p>
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		<title>By: pampers</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-29653</link>
		<dc:creator>pampers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow give the pan and scan debate a rest.Just got the dvd today and its looks and sounds wonderful.Best sound I ever heard for part 2 all these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow give the pan and scan debate a rest.Just got the dvd today and its looks and sounds wonderful.Best sound I ever heard for part 2 all these years.</p>
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		<title>By: Balooeyezz</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-28905</link>
		<dc:creator>Balooeyezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooke - forgive me for mis-reading your comment.  However, you say, &quot;From what I see Tom&#039;s link does support what he said.&quot;  Please show me where Tom&#039;s link to Wikipedia supports his claims that open-matte transfers are &quot;rarely used,&quot; &quot;too expensive&quot; and &quot;too time-consuming&quot; and I&#039;ll gladly apologize and retract my previous statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooke &#8211; forgive me for mis-reading your comment.  However, you say, &#8220;From what I see Tom&#8217;s link does support what he said.&#8221;  Please show me where Tom&#8217;s link to Wikipedia supports his claims that open-matte transfers are &#8220;rarely used,&#8221; &#8220;too expensive&#8221; and &#8220;too time-consuming&#8221; and I&#8217;ll gladly apologize and retract my previous statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-28667</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balooeyezz, I didn&#039;t say Spielberg and Allen balked at open mattes, I said they balked at pan and scan. This is what I said &quot;It said that pan and scan is common and that it&#039;s even used with tv shows made recently. It said that a few directors balk at the idea and use open mattes.&quot; I read all of the comments and links carefully. I think you might have taken what I said a little out of context. From what I see Tom&#039;s link does support what he said. Either way it&#039;s really not that important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balooeyezz, I didn&#8217;t say Spielberg and Allen balked at open mattes, I said they balked at pan and scan. This is what I said &#8220;It said that pan and scan is common and that it&#8217;s even used with tv shows made recently. It said that a few directors balk at the idea and use open mattes.&#8221; I read all of the comments and links carefully. I think you might have taken what I said a little out of context. From what I see Tom&#8217;s link does support what he said. Either way it&#8217;s really not that important.</p>
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		<title>By: Balooeyezz</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-28418</link>
		<dc:creator>Balooeyezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, Tom&#039;s argument is that open-matte transfers are “rarely used,” “too expensive and time consuming,&quot; and he&#039;s provided ZERO evidence to support those claims.  I&#039;ve provided links to prove otherwise.  Can you show me any link to anything that supports Tom&#039;s claims?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, Tom&#8217;s argument is that open-matte transfers are “rarely used,” “too expensive and time consuming,&#8221; and he&#8217;s provided ZERO evidence to support those claims.  I&#8217;ve provided links to prove otherwise.  Can you show me any link to anything that supports Tom&#8217;s claims?</p>
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		<title>By: Balooeyezz</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-28414</link>
		<dc:creator>Balooeyezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooke - unfortunately, Tom&#039;s only link - to a definition of Pan &amp; Scan - supports exactly what I&#039;ve written and disproves what Tom has written.  Pan &amp; Scan is the opposite of an open-matte transfer.

I think you need to go back and re-read his link.  It doesn&#039;t say that directors like Spielberg and Allen balked at open-matte transfers - they balked at Pan &amp; Scan.  Here&#039;s the quote:

&quot;Some directors still balk at the use of &quot;pan and scan&quot; versions of their movies because they feel it compromises the directorial vision with which their movies were created. For instance, Steven Spielberg initially refused to release a pan-and-scan version of Raiders of the Lost Ark but eventually gave in; Woody Allen refused altogether to release one of Manhattan, the letterbox version is therefore the only version available on VHS and DVD. Any tampering with the original image of a film, particularly to crop it to fit a television screen, implies a compromise of the original image, and the cropping of a widescreen image to a full screen image for standard televisions requires skill by a film editor to prevent undue loss of elements of the composition.&quot;

Then, a few short paragraphs later, they describe open-matte transfers as THE REVERSE of Pan &amp; Scan:

&quot;In other example therein, film directors reverse this process, creating a negative with information that extends above and below the widescreen theatrical image, called &quot;open matte&quot;.&quot;

Translation: Pan &amp; Scan CROPS up to 40% of widescreen images (directors don&#039;t like); open-matte transfers open up the image area giving you more image than was intended for theaters (directors favor this).

I&#039;m not sure why this is so difficult to understand in such simple terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooke &#8211; unfortunately, Tom&#8217;s only link &#8211; to a definition of Pan &amp; Scan &#8211; supports exactly what I&#8217;ve written and disproves what Tom has written.  Pan &amp; Scan is the opposite of an open-matte transfer.</p>
<p>I think you need to go back and re-read his link.  It doesn&#8217;t say that directors like Spielberg and Allen balked at open-matte transfers &#8211; they balked at Pan &amp; Scan.  Here&#8217;s the quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Some directors still balk at the use of &#8220;pan and scan&#8221; versions of their movies because they feel it compromises the directorial vision with which their movies were created. For instance, Steven Spielberg initially refused to release a pan-and-scan version of Raiders of the Lost Ark but eventually gave in; Woody Allen refused altogether to release one of Manhattan, the letterbox version is therefore the only version available on VHS and DVD. Any tampering with the original image of a film, particularly to crop it to fit a television screen, implies a compromise of the original image, and the cropping of a widescreen image to a full screen image for standard televisions requires skill by a film editor to prevent undue loss of elements of the composition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, a few short paragraphs later, they describe open-matte transfers as THE REVERSE of Pan &amp; Scan:</p>
<p>&#8220;In other example therein, film directors reverse this process, creating a negative with information that extends above and below the widescreen theatrical image, called &#8220;open matte&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation: Pan &amp; Scan CROPS up to 40% of widescreen images (directors don&#8217;t like); open-matte transfers open up the image area giving you more image than was intended for theaters (directors favor this).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why this is so difficult to understand in such simple terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-28244</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe part 2 isn&#039;t uncut. This is my favorite movie not just in the Friday The 13th series, but in the horror genre it&#039;s self. I hate the MPAA. Children aren&#039;t allowed into R rated movies to begin with. What right does the MPAA have to tell adults what they can and can&#039;t watch. Anyway, with no commentary or special features that relate to the movie it&#039;s self I don&#039;t see a reason to buy this. I don&#039;t have a surround sound system, so the 5.1 surround mix doesn&#039;t mean that much to me. The picture quality on my old copy of this is great. I believe I&#039;m just gonna skip this one. Hopefully Paramount will come around and release this uncut some day. I hope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe part 2 isn&#8217;t uncut. This is my favorite movie not just in the Friday The 13th series, but in the horror genre it&#8217;s self. I hate the MPAA. Children aren&#8217;t allowed into R rated movies to begin with. What right does the MPAA have to tell adults what they can and can&#8217;t watch. Anyway, with no commentary or special features that relate to the movie it&#8217;s self I don&#8217;t see a reason to buy this. I don&#8217;t have a surround sound system, so the 5.1 surround mix doesn&#8217;t mean that much to me. The picture quality on my old copy of this is great. I believe I&#8217;m just gonna skip this one. Hopefully Paramount will come around and release this uncut some day. I hope!</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-28238</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I read all the comments and read the links to outside sources. From what I see, Tom is right. Balooeyezz, Tom did provide a link to an independent source. It said that pan and scan is common and that it&#039;s even used with tv shows made recently. It said that a few directors balk at the idea and use open mattes, like Steven Spielberd and Woody Allen. It said Spielberg initially refused to do pan and scan, but eventually gave in. It said Jaws was pan and scaned, so how do we know that the Friday The 13TH, Halloween and A Nightmare On Elm Street movies weren&#039;t done the same way. Look, I don&#039;t know much about aspect ratio. I&#039;m not trying to pick a fight with anyone, so please don&#039;t insult me. This is just my opinion, for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I read all the comments and read the links to outside sources. From what I see, Tom is right. Balooeyezz, Tom did provide a link to an independent source. It said that pan and scan is common and that it&#8217;s even used with tv shows made recently. It said that a few directors balk at the idea and use open mattes, like Steven Spielberd and Woody Allen. It said Spielberg initially refused to do pan and scan, but eventually gave in. It said Jaws was pan and scaned, so how do we know that the Friday The 13TH, Halloween and A Nightmare On Elm Street movies weren&#8217;t done the same way. Look, I don&#8217;t know much about aspect ratio. I&#8217;m not trying to pick a fight with anyone, so please don&#8217;t insult me. This is just my opinion, for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-27720</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely insane.  Tom, try to consider that you might be wrong.  Then tell me that I&#039;m a liar for telling the absolute truth.  Just incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely insane.  Tom, try to consider that you might be wrong.  Then tell me that I&#8217;m a liar for telling the absolute truth.  Just incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Balooeyezz</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-27572</link>
		<dc:creator>Balooeyezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Tom, I suppose everyone else can read the articles I&#039;ve linked to and decide for themselves if they think those articles support or contradict what I&#039;ve written.  Just as they could have read any evidence you provided, if you had, to support your argument.  Do you have any, Tom?  If so, please post it.  Maybe with some links to independent sources that support your statements, you can &quot;sale&quot; your argument to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Tom, I suppose everyone else can read the articles I&#8217;ve linked to and decide for themselves if they think those articles support or contradict what I&#8217;ve written.  Just as they could have read any evidence you provided, if you had, to support your argument.  Do you have any, Tom?  If so, please post it.  Maybe with some links to independent sources that support your statements, you can &#8220;sale&#8221; your argument to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-27539</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt and Balooeyezz, you both have misquoted me. The links from Wikipedia that you gave contradict everything you&#039;ve said. The examples you gave for movies that used an open matte are the few rare times it&#039;s actually been done. I can name examples of people who have won the million dollar lottery, but that wouldn&#039;t be proof that it happens to most people. You both put me in mind of politicians that take a flat out lie, put it with a half truth, and then try to sale the statement as the whole truth. Your desire to be right is stronger than your sense of logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt and Balooeyezz, you both have misquoted me. The links from Wikipedia that you gave contradict everything you&#8217;ve said. The examples you gave for movies that used an open matte are the few rare times it&#8217;s actually been done. I can name examples of people who have won the million dollar lottery, but that wouldn&#8217;t be proof that it happens to most people. You both put me in mind of politicians that take a flat out lie, put it with a half truth, and then try to sale the statement as the whole truth. Your desire to be right is stronger than your sense of logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Balooeyezz!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Balooeyezz!</p>
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		<title>By: Balooeyezz</title>
		<link>http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/friday-the-13th-part-2-deluxe-edition-reviewed/comment-page-2/#comment-27398</link>
		<dc:creator>Balooeyezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, it was my understanding that someone was saying that part 2 was &quot;shot in 2.35&quot;.  And yes, some films ARE shot in 2.35, anamorphically (the image is squeezed horizontally on the negative).  That requires much more expensive cameras.  That&#039;s why I said it was a laughable idea.  However, since neither parts 1 nor 2 (nor 4 thru 9, for that matter) were shot on Super 35 or anamorphically, they wouldn&#039;t have been framed to be shown in a 2.35:1 ratio.  You&#039;ve &quot;never seen or heard an interview where the filmmakers have stated&quot; what the aspect ratio is for F13 parts 1 and 2 because there&#039;s never been any question - they&#039;re 1.85:1.

Only films shot anamorphically (squeezed) or on Super 35mm are shown at a 2.35:1 ratio.  Super 35 can also be matted to 1.85, but films not shot in Super 35 or anamorphically are never formatted to 2.35.  Period.  If you can show me an example of a film shown in 2.35 that wasn&#039;t shot anamorphically or on Super 35, I&#039;ll happily retract.


As far as transferring to home video, I think what you mean by &quot;soft matte technique in formatting to a fullscreen&quot; is what&#039;s called an &quot;open matte transfer&quot;.  And it&#039;s exactly what I described before regarding Super 35mm... as a rebuttal to your comment that &quot;the aspect ratio of the original negative depends on what the movie was intended for, theatre or straight to video.&quot;  So I&#039;m glad you now agree with me.

This process is widely used.  James Cameron shot all his movies starting with &quot;The Abyss&quot; on Super 35 (in 1.37), then soft matted for theaters (to 2.35), and then did open matte transfers to home video (removing the matte and showing more image on the top and bottom than was showin the theaters).  It&#039;s described here, with a very helpful illustration:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_matte

Here&#039;s another great example using &quot;Air Force One&quot;:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/aspectratios/widescreenorama2.html

Open matte transfers can even be performed on films that were made before the advent of home video.  When &quot;The Shining&quot; was released on DVD in 2001, the full-frame version was an open matte transfer in accordance with Stanley Kubrick&#039;s wishes.
http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/s/shining_2k.shtml

Tom, you say: &quot;On low budget films like slashers it would be way too expensive and time-consuming to put the same amount of care in both wide and full screen versions at the time of filming.&quot;  The idea that even a semi-professional Director of Photography wouldn&#039;t have the brain power at the time of shooting to frame shots for widescreen matting and an open matte transfer is absolutely laughable.  Visual guides for each are even built into the camera&#039;s viewfinder.  If a boom mike shows up on VHS after an open matte transfer, then that&#039;s the sign of a pretty crappy DP.

Tom, your claims that this technique is &quot;rarely used,&quot; &quot;too expensive and time consuming&quot; are completely backwards.  Open matte transfers are used all the time, as they make converting films to full-frame much much easier.  You simply widen the matte and avoid Pan &amp; Scan completely.  Now that widescreen TVs are becoming the norm, the need to do open matte transfers is declining, but that certainly has nothing to do with expense or time consumption.  In fact, it would be MUCH more time-consuming to meticulously go through a film and determine where and when to Pan &amp; Scan!

I&#039;m not sure where you&#039;re getting your information from, Tom, but anyone with a cursory knowledge of Google can find the correct information in under 5 minutes.

Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, it was my understanding that someone was saying that part 2 was &#8220;shot in 2.35&#8243;.  And yes, some films ARE shot in 2.35, anamorphically (the image is squeezed horizontally on the negative).  That requires much more expensive cameras.  That&#8217;s why I said it was a laughable idea.  However, since neither parts 1 nor 2 (nor 4 thru 9, for that matter) were shot on Super 35 or anamorphically, they wouldn&#8217;t have been framed to be shown in a 2.35:1 ratio.  You&#8217;ve &#8220;never seen or heard an interview where the filmmakers have stated&#8221; what the aspect ratio is for F13 parts 1 and 2 because there&#8217;s never been any question &#8211; they&#8217;re 1.85:1.</p>
<p>Only films shot anamorphically (squeezed) or on Super 35mm are shown at a 2.35:1 ratio.  Super 35 can also be matted to 1.85, but films not shot in Super 35 or anamorphically are never formatted to 2.35.  Period.  If you can show me an example of a film shown in 2.35 that wasn&#8217;t shot anamorphically or on Super 35, I&#8217;ll happily retract.</p>
<p>As far as transferring to home video, I think what you mean by &#8220;soft matte technique in formatting to a fullscreen&#8221; is what&#8217;s called an &#8220;open matte transfer&#8221;.  And it&#8217;s exactly what I described before regarding Super 35mm&#8230; as a rebuttal to your comment that &#8220;the aspect ratio of the original negative depends on what the movie was intended for, theatre or straight to video.&#8221;  So I&#8217;m glad you now agree with me.</p>
<p>This process is widely used.  James Cameron shot all his movies starting with &#8220;The Abyss&#8221; on Super 35 (in 1.37), then soft matted for theaters (to 2.35), and then did open matte transfers to home video (removing the matte and showing more image on the top and bottom than was showin the theaters).  It&#8217;s described here, with a very helpful illustration:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_matte" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_matte</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another great example using &#8220;Air Force One&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/aspectratios/widescreenorama2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/aspectratios/widescreenorama2.html</a></p>
<p>Open matte transfers can even be performed on films that were made before the advent of home video.  When &#8220;The Shining&#8221; was released on DVD in 2001, the full-frame version was an open matte transfer in accordance with Stanley Kubrick&#8217;s wishes.<br />
<a href="http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/s/shining_2k.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/s/shining_2k.shtml</a></p>
<p>Tom, you say: &#8220;On low budget films like slashers it would be way too expensive and time-consuming to put the same amount of care in both wide and full screen versions at the time of filming.&#8221;  The idea that even a semi-professional Director of Photography wouldn&#8217;t have the brain power at the time of shooting to frame shots for widescreen matting and an open matte transfer is absolutely laughable.  Visual guides for each are even built into the camera&#8217;s viewfinder.  If a boom mike shows up on VHS after an open matte transfer, then that&#8217;s the sign of a pretty crappy DP.</p>
<p>Tom, your claims that this technique is &#8220;rarely used,&#8221; &#8220;too expensive and time consuming&#8221; are completely backwards.  Open matte transfers are used all the time, as they make converting films to full-frame much much easier.  You simply widen the matte and avoid Pan &amp; Scan completely.  Now that widescreen TVs are becoming the norm, the need to do open matte transfers is declining, but that certainly has nothing to do with expense or time consumption.  In fact, it would be MUCH more time-consuming to meticulously go through a film and determine where and when to Pan &amp; Scan!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you&#8217;re getting your information from, Tom, but anyone with a cursory knowledge of Google can find the correct information in under 5 minutes.</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.widescreen.org/
has everything you need to know about widescreen and aspect ratios.</description>
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has everything you need to know about widescreen and aspect ratios.</p>
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