Friday Conversation: That Thing That Makes You Go, Huh?
With so many movies in the series, there are a great number of scenes in the Friday the 13th movies that have made people at some point think to themselves, what was that all about? We have discussed a lot about the confusing endings of the original movies and parts of those endings have induced the feeling of, huh? Maybe you just don’t understand what a character is doing in a scene, or better yet, what they are doing in the movie in the first place.
Perhaps, there is an editing problem in a scene and it just isn’t flowing correctly. Really, anything goes. Let us know what one, or even multiple parts of any movie in the Friday the 13th franchise that has you just shaking your head. Also, just to let everyone know, saying the New Line Cinema movies being made makes you go huh, has already been said many, many times.
I think the scene that’s pictured above doesn’t make a lick of sense. I mean really what exactly was the point of tying him down and shaving his mustache and then jumping into his body. This scene, let alone the whole movie, just never made the least bit of sense.
The only thing that pops to mind is how Jason could “teleport” in part 8. It was never explained how that came to be. And why he even stayed on the boat and floated out to sea instead of staying at Crystal Lake. So much of that movie gave me that response
The original hologram scene for Jason X. From what I’ve read, originally Uber Jason was going to be distracted by a hologram of his Mother drowning in Crystal Lake. According to the writer, if I remember correctly, he wanted to prove that Uber Jason was different than Jason. So Jason was going to plunge his Mother all the way under and kill her. Thankfully, someone talked sense into someone and the scene was never filmed.
Jason loves his Mother, and kills because of her. To me, it was a lack of understanding of the motivation and thus a major element of the character of Jason to suggest this scene. Regardless to whether or not he was Uber Jason.
One of the things that had me thinking, was the first time I watched the original and Mrs. Voorhees showed up at the camp and revealed to Alice that she was the killer, and that scene took me by surprise because I never expected a women, none the less an old women to be the killer. I was definately expecting someone else to be the killer.
Jason Goes To Hell – It started out with a scary, classic FT13 feel. And then the S.W.A.T. team ambushed Jason… The rest of the film through to the end was one big “Huh???”. I know this is one of your favorites Jason’s Fury, but that was my honest reaction upon first viewing of it opening week back in ‘93. I remember thinking “what the hell is New Line doing to my favorite horror franchise?”.
Honestly, just Jason getting hit by lightning to “resurrect” him. The first jump the shark moment in the series.
Actually the entire Jason Goes to Hell kept me in a “huh” state of mind from the moment the FBI popped up in the bushes.
I continued to tell myself that it was some kind of joke and the movie would resume only to find out things only got worse from then out.
I’m sure they may be some out there that liked that movie, but honestly it was so different from anything else in the franchise that I never could except it. I have tried and failed to even watch it more than a couple of times.
When that movie came out and they had Sean Cunningham’s name in the advertisement I managed to gather a minimum of 30 people to attend the first showing taking up the first three rows I was expecting to blow some new to series minds.
Well…. let’s just say nobody said a word after leaving.
“Sad day in F13 history… in my mind at least”.
Steve
mWd
I had a bad feeling about JGTH from the tv commercials and was very let down after seeing it in the theater. I previously thought nothing could be worse than part 8 but this was very bad.
When you saw the necronomicon in JGTH, like what were they trying to say
i think that everyone of the Friday movies has atleast one wtf? but the one that has always bothered me, was in Part 5.
Who took this picture of Jason and how come he/she wasn’t killed??
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Robs collection of newspaper clippings from part 4. With complete backstory and an artists rendering? wtf? and when did Jason get his sister? I want a between parts 1 and 2 original prequel to explain Robs sister and Chris’ “rape”
the scene in pt 3 where Chris puts the noose around Jason’s neck and pushes him off the ledge: when it cuts to the “3D” shot from below Jason as he falls there is clearly a pause as if the scene starts just before the word “action” was called, and suddenly Brooker starts flailing his arms and legs and Jason starts falling. It’s always bugged the crap out of me and is so bad. I suppose you could explain it to say that Jason suddenly gains consciousness and that’s why there’s a pause before he reacts, but that doesn’t explain why HE’S NOT FALLING YET. I wish at some point they could’ve edited it correctly after all the re-releases et al.
I can’t think of any other scenes other than what’s been posted above.
@Thomas, maybe jason likes his faces clean shaven. He may have thought that moustache would have pushed his mask out at the bottom and made him look funny.
One thing that always makes be say, huh, is in A New Beginning. The scene towards the end when Pam and Reggie are running away from the house and towards the Ambulance parked on the road. One scene Pam would have that pink sweater around her shoulders, then cut to another angle of her running, it would be gone. Then seconds later in another shot, she would have it on again. It’s bad editing and small, but always makes me wonder.
There are others, but I am going to wait and see if other people mention them first.
Here is one that I scatched my head on. The pt 2 to 3 connection. In pt 2 we see Jason as the hillbilly form with a knife in his shoulder and then when we see him in pt 3, he is bald, bulker, and has complete use of his lt arm. Just something that I always wonder how. My understanding is that the movies are a day apart.
lol, what about the sparks that fly from Jason’s arm when its hit with the chainsaw by Ginny in part 2. thats always a good one.
Part V – The end with the dreams within dreams was just confusing was any of it real?
Part VIII – Jason turning back into a boy
Jason Goes To Hell – Everything after the swat team moment – I like it as a film but it doesnt work as a Jason film. They should have done the film about Creighton vs Jason start off in a flashback when he kills Creightons GF and Friends then fast forward to Creighton hunting Jason but guess thats for another topic discussion. That erotic shaving scene says it all about JGTH really.
Jason X – Everything after the first 10 minutes, tbh I just think this film sucks and I hate it.
The ending of part 8. If jason is a zombie why does a bucket of acid in the face affect him? Plus you got the entire toxic sludge turning jason into a young boy again? never understood that no matter how i try to make sense of it.
Muffin reappearing at the end of Part II after being eaten always kinda bugged me. Ali hanging out in the barn all day in Part 3 was kinda goofy, too. I also don’t get how Jason Voorhees, a drowning victim, spent so much time in the water, especially walking along the bottom of the ocean all the way to New York in part 8.
Wow, jasonsfury, I really rubbed your noodle (brain) w/ the comment in the other section. So obviously the nude shaving scene is a big WTF.
But I guess my WTF thing would be Jason X. You have a great franchise character that cultivated stories that were some of the strongest slasher entries in the 80s. Even with the gradual waning of quality as the franchise progressed, Jason in the woods obviously works! Even his trip to New York started in the woods and a nearby boat.
With such an easy win (Jason in the woods), why would you put him in space? Conceptually, it’s the antithesis of what worked over and over for the character.
Yeah that scene at the top is very confusing!!
Didnt it want to jump in a body that has facial hair???
how about Abel with the eyeball in part 3. he says that “he” gave it to him, how come Jason never killed Abel, and who owns the eye?
also, how did Roy get in front of Pam and Reggie when they ran to the ambulance in part 5?
also, and this is in everyone of the movies i would think, how come they don’t smell Jason when he is hiding in a room? don’t you think he would smell a bit, especially when he is a rotting zombie? or does he wear Old Spice?
and finally, and this is directed to Kane Hodder’s Jason potrayal, if Jason is a Zombie, why is he breathing? and sometimes in a very heavy pant when he is angry, like when Tina hits him with the nails, and he pulls the one outta his head. LIKE REALLY, JASON IS DEAD, HE IS A ZOMBIE, WHY IS HE BREATHING?????????
who peed under the bed? ginny or the rat?
There are too many to mention. But I’ll try.
Pt.1
Why did they kill a real snake? Arent fake snakes like really easy to make?
Who is this lady we have never seen before and why does she have man hands sometimes?
Pt.2
Wait…Jason didn’t die? This is the biggets “hu? moment” of the whole series.
Pt.3
Rick looks old as fuck compaired to Chirs.
Pt.4
WTF is a patusey?
Pt.5
Tommy is a grown ass man?
Pt.6
I thought Jason was cremated?
Pt.7
Star-mummy?
Pt.8
The director striped naked and got in the shower to make an actress feel MORE comfortable?
Pt.9
While this movie deserves the top honors for having the MOST “hu? moments” of them all, it also provides the greatest moment of clairity in the whole series. Jason really is like a little girl in a pink dress shoving a hot-dog through a doughnut.
Pt.X
This movie was released in Mexico first?
VS.
That Canadian guy Kane killed in New York is jason now?
2009
The character who is supposed to be the bigest jerk is actuallly the most likeable one?
Jason goes to Hell is the biggest Huh?
One of the many moments that I found ridiculous is the end of the film. Some douche bag newscaster placed Jason’s dead relative in the lower level of the old Voorhees house. The demon worm gets into her body and Jason is reborn again. The dumbest part is that he’s still wearing the tattered clothes, hockey mask and all. Anyone else would assume that he would use her body. WTF?
Honestly, I was glad that Jason comes back in the film, but the whole idea is silly.
I think the one scene that makes me shake My head is in part 7. Where at the end Tina’s father jumps out of the lake and pulls Jason under. That couldve been a good idea, but after all those years all He has is a little dirt on His face. I remember in the theatre, My brother and I were both saying thats so lame. And then of course years later I learned John Buechler did want to do it the right way where Mr. Shepard looked all decayed. But the final cut is just stupid. And also in JGTH that homo erotic shave scene is just pointless. In the theatre I was kind of wondering “Damm whats Jason going to do to this guy”? I thought for a minute He was going to cut Josh’s throat. But what was the point really in Jason shaving Him. Did it make it easier for Jason to pass the hellbaby on to Josh? Plus when Hes in Randys body, Jason actually speaks. “Freeze!! Get the hell away from Her Ed” and He also says Jessica. I didnt quite get that. I suppose that was to throw us all off on who Jason jumped into, Ed or Randy. And then I noticed someone above commented on the teleporting in part 8. What the hell was that about? Jason only moves so fast once part 8 came around but yet He was getting the jump on people like JJ, Eva, that blonde kid that tried to climb the ladder, and even Mr. Mcollough. I dont know if that was meant to make Jason scarier, but it didnt work. Ah and heres another one. It has to do with The Final Chapter, when Trish and Rob are in the basement. Why does Rob go back downstairs with that little knife, leaving Trish with the machete? “Oh My God Hes killing Me” everytime I hear that I answer “Whatd You expect”? And when Rob’s in the woods in His tent and He hears Paul screaming after His spear to the groin death. He has a rifle and a machete. Why in the hell would anyone grab the machete of all weapons instead of the rifle to try and get the jump on Jason. I know guns dont stop Jason, but however Jason was never shot with a gun until part 6. If He wouldve been shot parts 1-4, it might have hurt a bit more. I could go on and on with WTF moments, but those are My top ones. Theres always a bunch of bloopers that go with horror films, but I love em, and Id never change a thing.
FVJ: Jason is afraid of water????????????????????????
Jason X: It’s Existence
bytor2112, when Abel says “he” gave it to me (the eyeball) I always took it to mean he found it and by “He” able means God.
I have to agree. FvJ: Jason is afraid of water. That’s why you see him coaching himself before he goes in and kills someone in the water in parts 4, 6, & 8 (off the top of my head. There are probably more). To be fair, that was more a Nightmare movie than Friday. Jason got smacked around by Freddy more than he should have. I think the writers were a little biased.
huh?
I’m gonna be honest with you guys, this has bugged the living hell outta me. In JGTH there is a part where someone posessed by Jason decides to open up his mouth and SPEAK. I honestly sat there and said “awww What the !@#$ ” and its bothered me as much as the beginning of that movie with the FBI creating this whole operation with lights and ambush in his woods get the hell out of here .
@TheWagglenator
I have questioned the speaking too. Does the Jason Hell Baby posses everyone instantly? Perhaps the Jason Hell Baby got inside him and did not posses him instantly, knowing that he would try to find the others and him being able to speak and be expressive as he usually would be allowed him to get in there and get close to them. Then, Jason possessed him after the guy was speaking.
Notice, he does not move like other people possessed by Jason movies. And he talks like he usually does. Jason took him time, and strategically used this situation. (Jason actually is pretty tricky when you watch the films.)
Part 1 never made me go huh.
Part 2 Not showing Paul’s death
Part 3 Jason not having hair and a bread after Part 2 made me really go HUH???!!
Part 4 Not showing Mrs.Jarvis’ death made me go huh? But I figured she died and they found out later.
Part 5 Tommy’s age change
Part 6 What happened to Paula’s body? Jason sure did a number on her,but where was the remains and why did she had to die so violently?
Part 7 Why wasn’t Tina’s Father decayed?
Part 8 Why was Jason always wet when he should’ve dried out
Part 9 The whole story
Jason x or 10 The whole story
Freddy vs.Jason How did Camp Crystal Lake get so close to Springwood?
The biggest reason I go, “HUH?”
It’s me wondering WHY there isn’t more Friday the 13th movies to watch. They ought to have some well established writers pumping these babies out at least once a year.
Pretty much all of JGTH & pt.8’s ending are at the top of my list.
Not so much a scene , but I still have something I’d like to discuss. Since Jason is somewhat mentally challenged, and may “not know any better”, Wouldn’t he try and take advantage of some of the naked girls prancing around the lake? He should have some urges. No, I am not saying I want to see Jason rape a girl at all, but in the “realistic” approach of him (2-4), don’t you think he’d try it once? JF, I’m trying to be adult-like on this to, I’m 25 with an honest ? lol
Part 2: How did Jason kill Teri? After Scott get’s his throat slashed (With the dull end of the machete min you hanging by his ankle from the rope), Teri runs into him similar to Mrs. jarvis, but we never see how she got it. (I think her body is piled next to Pam’s shrine though)..also before Scott gets it, she throws the towel right at Jason.
Part 5: Robin’s demise…Machete was straight, but when Roy went in after Violet, the machete blade was curved.
Part 7: Michael has to walk so far away into the woods to take a piss? I’m sure his girlfriend seen it many times before…it’s a “Jason” movie afterall…
@ Corey yea that was wired he couldnt of just pissed right their and why in the holy mother of shit would the girl just duck into her sleeping bag i would of tried to stand up and get away.
Also in part 7 Where did the random decapitated head come from that was placed in the plant because we know the other guy got his head cut off but it was up stairs in that room
@ Corey
you mentioned the dull side of the machete in part 2, this was something that has also bothered me for sometime aswell. so one day i paused it and took a closer look at the machete, and the sharp side is actually the back of the blade upon closer look. pause it when Scott, who is hanging upside down, gets the machete across the neck and check it out.
also, when wheelchair Mark takes the machete to the face, because the scene is so fast you might not have noticed it, but the machete hits him with the back side of it, which was the sharpened side.
so in all the people that have called bullshit on this one and said it was the wrong side of the machete, take a closer look next time and you will see what i’m talking about.
this goes for when Ali was “hacked up by Jason, how could he come back at the end”? if you look closely when Jason is attacking him for the first time, Jason is hitting him with a pipe wrench, not a machete as most people think.
this is just some little things that actually do work, that people get their panties all in an uproar about, saying its the dull side and he chopped him up how could he come back to life with not a scratch?
so pause your movies and check them out, and you will see what i’m talking about
The biggest ‘huh’ or wtf moment for the series is when New Line took over.
Obviously people have differing opinions on their favorite films or eras of the franchise. Some people like the first 4-5 films only. Other like the zombified entries, etc.
All I gotta say though is I’ll take Jason Lives, The New Blood and JTM over JTGH, Jason X and most of the time Freddy vs Jason.
Even though to this day I believe Paramount is ashamed of the series. In the end they always did the better films vs New Line IMO.
It took re association with Paramount through Platinum Dunes for the series to even get back to basics.
Course that goes without saying that the reboot didn’t get it’s heat. Sections of the fanbase felt it was too much like the TCM remake, complained about how all the characters were eye candy. Not sure why that was such a big deal. Besides Shelly and Joey, the majority of every film in the series consisted of good looking males and females. Its just that its a different era and they look more polished today than they did back then.
In the end though, the biggest ‘huh’ or wtf is the New Line portion of the series.
Jason Lives blows away any New Line film as does New Blood and even JTM IMO.
Freddy vs jason had sum bad moments. I love when the van crashes when jason flys out and you can see the wire he’s on. There’s a lot more but I’m lazy. I typed on a phone and I accidently hit reset so I’m mad
My favorite is still the randomly-occurring toxic waste from the end of Jason Takes Manhatten. The maintenance employee’s casual “Noise? Oh, that’s just the highly corrosive industrial biproduct they pump through here every night. What, you didn’t *know* about that?” amuses me to this day. Say what you will – it doesn’t lack creativity. XD
Also, I’m going to have to jump on the “Slasher of Seville” from Jason Goes To Hell bandwagon. I normally like creepy non-sequiters, but that was too little creepy and too much non-sequiter. Plus, the way the scene is shot, I just… always end up thinking of Bugs Bunny shaving Elmer Fudd.
@ Bytor2112, I’ve actually always known that Jason beat Ali down-but didn’t hack him to shit at that time with the machete. Of course I always thougt it was a wooden log of some sort-didn’t know it was a pipe. As for Jason slicing Scott’s neck, I will deff/ go back and check that scene out for a closer look. Thanks…
Here’s another “wtf?!?” moment: Part 3. When the Andy’s girlfriend gets into the hammock and is reading Fangoria, she should have obviously seen him underneath…
And here’s one I’m suprised nobody else mentioned. Don’t think that After Jason literally rose from the grave, people would smell him well before he offed them? I mean, he’s a hulking rotting fleshwound feasted upon by mold, worms and maggots. Not to mention that even the weekend he killed everyone in parts 2-4 he would have massive body odor that one’s nostrils would pick up on in closed corridors? I dunno, just another “wtf?!?” moment/thought.
The shaving scene i think was because the hellbaby didn’t want to chafe on the moustache as he wormed into the guy’s mouth. Demons have sensitive skin.
I hate the scene in part 4 when Tommy is trying to fix the family car and Rob grabs him and right at that moment they show a random shot of the solenoid and some wiring under the hood… nothing else. WTF?