Friday Conversation: That Thing That Makes You Go, Huh?
With so many movies in the series, there are a great number of scenes in the Friday the 13th movies that have made people at some point think to themselves, what was that all about? We have discussed a lot about the confusing endings of the original movies and parts of those endings have induced the feeling of, huh? Maybe you just don’t understand what a character is doing in a scene, or better yet, what they are doing in the movie in the first place.
Perhaps, there is an editing problem in a scene and it just isn’t flowing correctly. Really, anything goes. Let us know what one, or even multiple parts of any movie in the Friday the 13th franchise that has you just shaking your head. Also, just to let everyone know, saying the New Line Cinema movies being made makes you go huh, has already been said many, many times.
I think the scene that’s pictured above doesn’t make a lick of sense. I mean really what exactly was the point of tying him down and shaving his mustache and then jumping into his body. This scene, let alone the whole movie, just never made the least bit of sense.
The only thing that pops to mind is how Jason could “teleport” in part 8. It was never explained how that came to be. And why he even stayed on the boat and floated out to sea instead of staying at Crystal Lake. So much of that movie gave me that response
The original hologram scene for Jason X. From what I’ve read, originally Uber Jason was going to be distracted by a hologram of his Mother drowning in Crystal Lake. According to the writer, if I remember correctly, he wanted to prove that Uber Jason was different than Jason. So Jason was going to plunge his Mother all the way under and kill her. Thankfully, someone talked sense into someone and the scene was never filmed.
Jason loves his Mother, and kills because of her. To me, it was a lack of understanding of the motivation and thus a major element of the character of Jason to suggest this scene. Regardless to whether or not he was Uber Jason.
One of the things that had me thinking, was the first time I watched the original and Mrs. Voorhees showed up at the camp and revealed to Alice that she was the killer, and that scene took me by surprise because I never expected a women, none the less an old women to be the killer. I was definately expecting someone else to be the killer.
Jason Goes To Hell – It started out with a scary, classic FT13 feel. And then the S.W.A.T. team ambushed Jason… The rest of the film through to the end was one big “Huh???”. I know this is one of your favorites Jason’s Fury, but that was my honest reaction upon first viewing of it opening week back in ‘93. I remember thinking “what the hell is New Line doing to my favorite horror franchise?”.
Honestly, just Jason getting hit by lightning to “resurrect” him. The first jump the shark moment in the series.
Actually the entire Jason Goes to Hell kept me in a “huh” state of mind from the moment the FBI popped up in the bushes.
I continued to tell myself that it was some kind of joke and the movie would resume only to find out things only got worse from then out.
I’m sure they may be some out there that liked that movie, but honestly it was so different from anything else in the franchise that I never could except it. I have tried and failed to even watch it more than a couple of times.
When that movie came out and they had Sean Cunningham’s name in the advertisement I managed to gather a minimum of 30 people to attend the first showing taking up the first three rows I was expecting to blow some new to series minds.
Well…. let’s just say nobody said a word after leaving.
“Sad day in F13 history… in my mind at least”.
Steve
mWd
I had a bad feeling about JGTH from the tv commercials and was very let down after seeing it in the theater. I previously thought nothing could be worse than part 8 but this was very bad.
When you saw the necronomicon in JGTH, like what were they trying to say
i think that everyone of the Friday movies has atleast one wtf? but the one that has always bothered me, was in Part 5.
Who took this picture of Jason and how come he/she wasn’t killed??
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Robs collection of newspaper clippings from part 4. With complete backstory and an artists rendering? wtf? and when did Jason get his sister? I want a between parts 1 and 2 original prequel to explain Robs sister and Chris’ “rape”
the scene in pt 3 where Chris puts the noose around Jason’s neck and pushes him off the ledge: when it cuts to the “3D” shot from below Jason as he falls there is clearly a pause as if the scene starts just before the word “action” was called, and suddenly Brooker starts flailing his arms and legs and Jason starts falling. It’s always bugged the crap out of me and is so bad. I suppose you could explain it to say that Jason suddenly gains consciousness and that’s why there’s a pause before he reacts, but that doesn’t explain why HE’S NOT FALLING YET. I wish at some point they could’ve edited it correctly after all the re-releases et al.
I can’t think of any other scenes other than what’s been posted above.
@Thomas, maybe jason likes his faces clean shaven. He may have thought that moustache would have pushed his mask out at the bottom and made him look funny.
One thing that always makes be say, huh, is in A New Beginning. The scene towards the end when Pam and Reggie are running away from the house and towards the Ambulance parked on the road. One scene Pam would have that pink sweater around her shoulders, then cut to another angle of her running, it would be gone. Then seconds later in another shot, she would have it on again. It’s bad editing and small, but always makes me wonder.
There are others, but I am going to wait and see if other people mention them first.
Here is one that I scatched my head on. The pt 2 to 3 connection. In pt 2 we see Jason as the hillbilly form with a knife in his shoulder and then when we see him in pt 3, he is bald, bulker, and has complete use of his lt arm. Just something that I always wonder how. My understanding is that the movies are a day apart.
lol, what about the sparks that fly from Jason’s arm when its hit with the chainsaw by Ginny in part 2. thats always a good one.
Part V – The end with the dreams within dreams was just confusing was any of it real?
Part VIII – Jason turning back into a boy
Jason Goes To Hell – Everything after the swat team moment – I like it as a film but it doesnt work as a Jason film. They should have done the film about Creighton vs Jason start off in a flashback when he kills Creightons GF and Friends then fast forward to Creighton hunting Jason but guess thats for another topic discussion. That erotic shaving scene says it all about JGTH really.
Jason X – Everything after the first 10 minutes, tbh I just think this film sucks and I hate it.
The ending of part 8. If jason is a zombie why does a bucket of acid in the face affect him? Plus you got the entire toxic sludge turning jason into a young boy again? never understood that no matter how i try to make sense of it.
Muffin reappearing at the end of Part II after being eaten always kinda bugged me. Ali hanging out in the barn all day in Part 3 was kinda goofy, too. I also don’t get how Jason Voorhees, a drowning victim, spent so much time in the water, especially walking along the bottom of the ocean all the way to New York in part 8.
Wow, jasonsfury, I really rubbed your noodle (brain) w/ the comment in the other section. So obviously the nude shaving scene is a big WTF.
But I guess my WTF thing would be Jason X. You have a great franchise character that cultivated stories that were some of the strongest slasher entries in the 80s. Even with the gradual waning of quality as the franchise progressed, Jason in the woods obviously works! Even his trip to New York started in the woods and a nearby boat.
With such an easy win (Jason in the woods), why would you put him in space? Conceptually, it’s the antithesis of what worked over and over for the character.
Yeah that scene at the top is very confusing!!
Didnt it want to jump in a body that has facial hair???
how about Abel with the eyeball in part 3. he says that “he” gave it to him, how come Jason never killed Abel, and who owns the eye?
also, how did Roy get in front of Pam and Reggie when they ran to the ambulance in part 5?
also, and this is in everyone of the movies i would think, how come they don’t smell Jason when he is hiding in a room? don’t you think he would smell a bit, especially when he is a rotting zombie? or does he wear Old Spice?
and finally, and this is directed to Kane Hodder’s Jason potrayal, if Jason is a Zombie, why is he breathing? and sometimes in a very heavy pant when he is angry, like when Tina hits him with the nails, and he pulls the one outta his head. LIKE REALLY, JASON IS DEAD, HE IS A ZOMBIE, WHY IS HE BREATHING?????????
who peed under the bed? ginny or the rat?
There are too many to mention. But I’ll try.
Pt.1
Why did they kill a real snake? Arent fake snakes like really easy to make?
Who is this lady we have never seen before and why does she have man hands sometimes?
Pt.2
Wait…Jason didn’t die? This is the biggets “hu? moment” of the whole series.
Pt.3
Rick looks old as fuck compaired to Chirs.
Pt.4
WTF is a patusey?
Pt.5
Tommy is a grown ass man?
Pt.6
I thought Jason was cremated?
Pt.7
Star-mummy?
Pt.8
The director striped naked and got in the shower to make an actress feel MORE comfortable?
Pt.9
While this movie deserves the top honors for having the MOST “hu? moments” of them all, it also provides the greatest moment of clairity in the whole series. Jason really is like a little girl in a pink dress shoving a hot-dog through a doughnut.
Pt.X
This movie was released in Mexico first?
VS.
That Canadian guy Kane killed in New York is jason now?
2009
The character who is supposed to be the bigest jerk is actuallly the most likeable one?
Jason goes to Hell is the biggest Huh?
One of the many moments that I found ridiculous is the end of the film. Some douche bag newscaster placed Jason’s dead relative in the lower level of the old Voorhees house. The demon worm gets into her body and Jason is reborn again. The dumbest part is that he’s still wearing the tattered clothes, hockey mask and all. Anyone else would assume that he would use her body. WTF?
Honestly, I was glad that Jason comes back in the film, but the whole idea is silly.
I think the one scene that makes me shake My head is in part 7. Where at the end Tina’s father jumps out of the lake and pulls Jason under. That couldve been a good idea, but after all those years all He has is a little dirt on His face. I remember in the theatre, My brother and I were both saying thats so lame. And then of course years later I learned John Buechler did want to do it the right way where Mr. Shepard looked all decayed. But the final cut is just stupid. And also in JGTH that homo erotic shave scene is just pointless. In the theatre I was kind of wondering “Damm whats Jason going to do to this guy”? I thought for a minute He was going to cut Josh’s throat. But what was the point really in Jason shaving Him. Did it make it easier for Jason to pass the hellbaby on to Josh? Plus when Hes in Randys body, Jason actually speaks. “Freeze!! Get the hell away from Her Ed” and He also says Jessica. I didnt quite get that. I suppose that was to throw us all off on who Jason jumped into, Ed or Randy. And then I noticed someone above commented on the teleporting in part 8. What the hell was that about? Jason only moves so fast once part 8 came around but yet He was getting the jump on people like JJ, Eva, that blonde kid that tried to climb the ladder, and even Mr. Mcollough. I dont know if that was meant to make Jason scarier, but it didnt work. Ah and heres another one. It has to do with The Final Chapter, when Trish and Rob are in the basement. Why does Rob go back downstairs with that little knife, leaving Trish with the machete? “Oh My God Hes killing Me” everytime I hear that I answer “Whatd You expect”? And when Rob’s in the woods in His tent and He hears Paul screaming after His spear to the groin death. He has a rifle and a machete. Why in the hell would anyone grab the machete of all weapons instead of the rifle to try and get the jump on Jason. I know guns dont stop Jason, but however Jason was never shot with a gun until part 6. If He wouldve been shot parts 1-4, it might have hurt a bit more. I could go on and on with WTF moments, but those are My top ones. Theres always a bunch of bloopers that go with horror films, but I love em, and Id never change a thing.
FVJ: Jason is afraid of water????????????????????????
Jason X: It’s Existence
bytor2112, when Abel says “he” gave it to me (the eyeball) I always took it to mean he found it and by “He” able means God.
I have to agree. FvJ: Jason is afraid of water. That’s why you see him coaching himself before he goes in and kills someone in the water in parts 4, 6, & 8 (off the top of my head. There are probably more). To be fair, that was more a Nightmare movie than Friday. Jason got smacked around by Freddy more than he should have. I think the writers were a little biased.
huh?
I’m gonna be honest with you guys, this has bugged the living hell outta me. In JGTH there is a part where someone posessed by Jason decides to open up his mouth and SPEAK. I honestly sat there and said “awww What the !@#$ ” and its bothered me as much as the beginning of that movie with the FBI creating this whole operation with lights and ambush in his woods get the hell out of here .
@TheWagglenator
I have questioned the speaking too. Does the Jason Hell Baby posses everyone instantly? Perhaps the Jason Hell Baby got inside him and did not posses him instantly, knowing that he would try to find the others and him being able to speak and be expressive as he usually would be allowed him to get in there and get close to them. Then, Jason possessed him after the guy was speaking.
Notice, he does not move like other people possessed by Jason movies. And he talks like he usually does. Jason took him time, and strategically used this situation. (Jason actually is pretty tricky when you watch the films.)
Part 1 never made me go huh.
Part 2 Not showing Paul’s death
Part 3 Jason not having hair and a bread after Part 2 made me really go HUH???!!
Part 4 Not showing Mrs.Jarvis’ death made me go huh? But I figured she died and they found out later.
Part 5 Tommy’s age change
Part 6 What happened to Paula’s body? Jason sure did a number on her,but where was the remains and why did she had to die so violently?
Part 7 Why wasn’t Tina’s Father decayed?
Part 8 Why was Jason always wet when he should’ve dried out
Part 9 The whole story
Jason x or 10 The whole story
Freddy vs.Jason How did Camp Crystal Lake get so close to Springwood?
The biggest reason I go, “HUH?”
It’s me wondering WHY there isn’t more Friday the 13th movies to watch. They ought to have some well established writers pumping these babies out at least once a year.
Pretty much all of JGTH & pt.8’s ending are at the top of my list.
Not so much a scene , but I still have something I’d like to discuss. Since Jason is somewhat mentally challenged, and may “not know any better”, Wouldn’t he try and take advantage of some of the naked girls prancing around the lake? He should have some urges. No, I am not saying I want to see Jason rape a girl at all, but in the “realistic” approach of him (2-4), don’t you think he’d try it once? JF, I’m trying to be adult-like on this to, I’m 25 with an honest ? lol
Part 2: How did Jason kill Teri? After Scott get’s his throat slashed (With the dull end of the machete min you hanging by his ankle from the rope), Teri runs into him similar to Mrs. jarvis, but we never see how she got it. (I think her body is piled next to Pam’s shrine though)..also before Scott gets it, she throws the towel right at Jason.
Part 5: Robin’s demise…Machete was straight, but when Roy went in after Violet, the machete blade was curved.
Part 7: Michael has to walk so far away into the woods to take a piss? I’m sure his girlfriend seen it many times before…it’s a “Jason” movie afterall…
@ Corey yea that was wired he couldnt of just pissed right their and why in the holy mother of shit would the girl just duck into her sleeping bag i would of tried to stand up and get away.
Also in part 7 Where did the random decapitated head come from that was placed in the plant because we know the other guy got his head cut off but it was up stairs in that room
@ Corey
you mentioned the dull side of the machete in part 2, this was something that has also bothered me for sometime aswell. so one day i paused it and took a closer look at the machete, and the sharp side is actually the back of the blade upon closer look. pause it when Scott, who is hanging upside down, gets the machete across the neck and check it out.
also, when wheelchair Mark takes the machete to the face, because the scene is so fast you might not have noticed it, but the machete hits him with the back side of it, which was the sharpened side.
so in all the people that have called bullshit on this one and said it was the wrong side of the machete, take a closer look next time and you will see what i’m talking about.
this goes for when Ali was “hacked up by Jason, how could he come back at the end”? if you look closely when Jason is attacking him for the first time, Jason is hitting him with a pipe wrench, not a machete as most people think.
this is just some little things that actually do work, that people get their panties all in an uproar about, saying its the dull side and he chopped him up how could he come back to life with not a scratch?
so pause your movies and check them out, and you will see what i’m talking about
The biggest ‘huh’ or wtf moment for the series is when New Line took over.
Obviously people have differing opinions on their favorite films or eras of the franchise. Some people like the first 4-5 films only. Other like the zombified entries, etc.
All I gotta say though is I’ll take Jason Lives, The New Blood and JTM over JTGH, Jason X and most of the time Freddy vs Jason.
Even though to this day I believe Paramount is ashamed of the series. In the end they always did the better films vs New Line IMO.
It took re association with Paramount through Platinum Dunes for the series to even get back to basics.
Course that goes without saying that the reboot didn’t get it’s heat. Sections of the fanbase felt it was too much like the TCM remake, complained about how all the characters were eye candy. Not sure why that was such a big deal. Besides Shelly and Joey, the majority of every film in the series consisted of good looking males and females. Its just that its a different era and they look more polished today than they did back then.
In the end though, the biggest ‘huh’ or wtf is the New Line portion of the series.
Jason Lives blows away any New Line film as does New Blood and even JTM IMO.
Freddy vs jason had sum bad moments. I love when the van crashes when jason flys out and you can see the wire he’s on. There’s a lot more but I’m lazy. I typed on a phone and I accidently hit reset so I’m mad
My favorite is still the randomly-occurring toxic waste from the end of Jason Takes Manhatten. The maintenance employee’s casual “Noise? Oh, that’s just the highly corrosive industrial biproduct they pump through here every night. What, you didn’t *know* about that?” amuses me to this day. Say what you will – it doesn’t lack creativity. XD
Also, I’m going to have to jump on the “Slasher of Seville” from Jason Goes To Hell bandwagon. I normally like creepy non-sequiters, but that was too little creepy and too much non-sequiter. Plus, the way the scene is shot, I just… always end up thinking of Bugs Bunny shaving Elmer Fudd.
@ Bytor2112, I’ve actually always known that Jason beat Ali down-but didn’t hack him to shit at that time with the machete. Of course I always thougt it was a wooden log of some sort-didn’t know it was a pipe. As for Jason slicing Scott’s neck, I will deff/ go back and check that scene out for a closer look. Thanks…
Here’s another “wtf?!?” moment: Part 3. When the Andy’s girlfriend gets into the hammock and is reading Fangoria, she should have obviously seen him underneath…
And here’s one I’m suprised nobody else mentioned. Don’t think that After Jason literally rose from the grave, people would smell him well before he offed them? I mean, he’s a hulking rotting fleshwound feasted upon by mold, worms and maggots. Not to mention that even the weekend he killed everyone in parts 2-4 he would have massive body odor that one’s nostrils would pick up on in closed corridors? I dunno, just another “wtf?!?” moment/thought.
The shaving scene i think was because the hellbaby didn’t want to chafe on the moustache as he wormed into the guy’s mouth. Demons have sensitive skin.
I hate the scene in part 4 when Tommy is trying to fix the family car and Rob grabs him and right at that moment they show a random shot of the solenoid and some wiring under the hood… nothing else. WTF?
To Richard & DrJohnMan:
I truely love your posts the best! *lmao* Great stuff, guys.:D
Just some of mine to list off that–while I am a truely big fan of the early days of the Paramount era–have unfortunately always bothered me:
Easily it has to be that Sean Cunningham is decent at making a quite obvious Exploitation/Slasher rip-off artist film, and yet he quite obviously lets the camer pan over to show that in Brenda’s room she quite obviously has a sink to wash-up with at night and to brush her teeth. And yet, just for a plodding along reasons that are very suspect and yet expected, he simply HAS to show poor Brenda going into the bathroom area to brush her teeth for that none too scary now that we aleady know who the killer is scene of Mrs. Voorhees trying to peek at her from the changing room (or was it a shower?) while trying to see whom she is.
Also that totally ridiculous scene in which Brenda must’ve quite obviously wanted to titilate someone–even in that obviously ridiculous 12 year olds night gown–in which she willingly heads out into the night to investigate that child’s voice alone WITHOUT her previously shown rain slicker. Also it hysterically dates the film, since like telephone booths by the mid ’80s, who the hell even owns a rain slicker now these days?
Also the hysterically padded out (as well as very quiet) sequence of Alice all alone, after we’ve already known that of course poor Bill would’ve had to have been killed, we have to watch her begin to SLOWLY make two cups of coffee, and to SLOWLY get everything out and to allow the large kettle quite some time to begin to boil as well. I personally find it a big “Things to make ya go Huh?” as well as general “Ah, what the fuck?” moment. I recently watched this one with a neice & nephew who’s finally old enough to watch all of my retro Slasher films and more older school horror of different sub-genres I’ve been re-buying on Blu Ray, and we all laughed and made fun of the many “plodding out the already just average running time” moments of the film, but Alice making the two cops of java especially. *lol*
From Steve Miner’s superior Part 2:
That would easily have the be the hysterical, quite obvious crew member throwing the cat into a poor and ready to be frightened Adrianne King’s face (just re-watch it once again on Blu Ray; it’s hysterical). For some reason I just shake my head form side-to-side endlessly whenever that happens.
Also from the same film, whenever Muffin the dog that the lovely Terri owns wonders into the woods and of course right in front of the almighty Jason. And then, hours later during Jason’s final attack on Giny & Paul, Alice encounters Muffin apparently perfectly intact and with the same bow in her hair and all! Truely a “Thing that makes ya go Huh?” moment. And it is NOT supposed to be a dream sequence, so apparently there is yet ANOTHER breed of dudg just like Muffin in the same camp ground’s woods very close to the original Camp Crystal Lake with the bow & all. Truely the film makers messed-up on that one no matter what anyone says.
Part 3:
While the obvious one would be Jason’s drastic change (albiet for the better if you ask me) at the beginning first few running time plodding (once again) minutes of this great old school bad boy, that (as Kane Hodder said during his extra features His Name Was Jason documentary interview footage) is basically just the film makers messing up with allowing a new special make-up F/X artist to do a new Jason mold make-up. Nothing else but mad continunity, really. I’d have to say the follwing are it’s unfortunate bigger problems:
* Jason apparently strips Chili naked, puts her hut tacky & sadly dated birght blue early ’80s sweater (which is of course now caked in blood) in the bathtub, and apparently hates Rick’s country cabin as well since he sits about trying to tear it up with both leaving the water running to over flow, as well as putting another large portion of popcorn to burn on the castiron stove after Chili was obviously very finished.
* Also, why did Jason hide Debbie’s body in a closet down the hallway? And as well as the obvious “only for a fake scare, and even ripped off from the original Friday part 1″ scene of him putting Loco’s body way up in a damn tree? Why go through ALL that trouble merely to scare someone? There were plenty of hiding places in the barn where all the bikers (save for Ali, who of course gets his commupance later on as we all now) originally anyhow. It truely makes no sense. Also from the original: How does an aging, post-menopausal woman, with all respect to the ladies here by the way, manage to get Steve Cristy’s body way up in a tree without help? I mean just imagine carrying it for a moment. Now laugh as you should.
Okay since that previous post was reaching monsterous leangths and I didn’t wanna catch anyone in a smart-ass mood to say anything, I decided to make two modest sized posts about my biggest “What the fuck?” moments from the rest of the series.
Continued from my favorite installment, Part 3:
* How was Jason able to teleport so fast in front of Chris’ van? After all, this is WAY before Part VIII (Jason Takes Manhatten). It’s a silly and just plain stupid trick by the film makers in order to have a very quick Manfredini musical stinger on the soundtrack and barely there scare right out on left field.
* That virtually no blood was all over the carpet from Andy’s death (hysterically referance in the ‘04 boxset cast reunion commentary track). Also I forget to mention and ask where now, exactly, did Jason hide Chili’s apparently nude body? Seriously what was that all about now?
* That the film makers thought we wouldn’t notice the quite obvious strings on all the weapons as well as Paul’s dummy head eyeball. Just a total “Things that make ya go Huh?” moment during the bigger kills in this one, even though it is again my favorite that I watch the most. Also the opening theme music. By 1982, New-Wave rock as well as more mainstream Post-Punk ruled the North American air waves, but apaprently no one told Mr. Manfredini or Mr. Michael Zager who handled now the infamous “haunted house” style opening Disco-esque track that both opens and closes the film. Seriously, WHAT in the Hell were they thinking (as well as smoking to boot)?
Talk about dating your film more then any Walkmens from here on out in this installment or in the next three ever chould.
The Final Chapter’s moments:
Easily as someone else noted that Rob suddenly scares Tommy and then gives him his full/birth name. Was amusingly referanced in the final Deluxe Edition standard definition re-release from last year in the fan film maker commentary track from Joe Lynch and Adam Green. *lol*
So, two people at the hospital are only “missing” with as clumsy as the almighty Jason handles & mangles them (wihtout gloves to cover up his finger prints, no less) and Rob mentions that two people in the hospital are merely “missing”? Whoa.
So, Jason also apparently made it out of such a public place as a hospital, after his been photographed and identified, and NO ONE either notices him or says shit?
That this group of partying teens that rented the lake house next door to the Jarvis family aren;t detered by any of the high-profile local news of mass killings from Parts 2 & 3 (which just happen days apart from this one, as we all know) in the least.
Apparently in the imaginary movie world of The Final Chapter, inflatable rafts stay afloat for several minutes even after being badly punctured by Mr. Voorhees, just in order for poor Paul to receive a fake scare before his cringe-inducing death.
That no one seemingly hears Jason break open a large bedroom window in order to pull Tina out of it and then nobody just as well doesn’t hear the roof of the station wagon busting badly when she lands on it.
Whoa, Jason sure as shit is pissed off in this one! But whatever did this group of teens inparticular do to him? After all for the things he chould do to scare others, and while a glorious death sequence, isn’t basically crucifying Jimbo to the doorway a little much? I’ve also for the longest time had a problem that Trish has to be just SO girly and so blondie and wan’t pass under Jimbo in order to quickly get to safety, and instead she breaks the fucking kitchen door with an old cheap-o chair. Honestly a total “WTF?” moment.
Also that she thought those pathetic nails would hold down the windows & doors and would with stand the almighty Jason. *lol*
Part V:
There are many in this “guilty pleasure in parts” installment that would quality, but the most outstanding are hysterical to me are these:
That the trailer park camp grounds for motor homes has a bright neon sign that merely reads “Trailer Park”. *lol*
Also the lovely Tina’s death. How was Roy that sneeky? There was no way he chould’ve been THAT stealth. It’s implausible. Also that Eddie didn’t hear he belt out that loud, obnoxious, almost Jamie Lee Curtis-esque scream. Hell, it’s a wonder no one else–just a few yards over towards the backdoor of the house–didn’t hear her death scream.
Also take note of the damage that the now infamous Pseudo-Jason/Imposter killer of Roy Burns takes that would kill a normal human being just as him. From a knife in his inner thigh, to being him badly in the guts (where many of your internal organs are) with the front-loader shovel tractor, would have killed anyone else. And thats not even to take into account the two (one is only in the Version 2# version of the film) in which we see him absord BOTH chainsaw hits from Pam’s defense attacks.
His detah scene as well with him falling way down to the old timey Tractor Harrow is also very amusing to me. For starters even by that time in the fall of 1984 when it was filmed, it wouldn’t and shouldn’t have still been in use. I know because I’ve had uncles on my mother’s side of the family who are farmers most of they’re lives. The Pinehurst Instatute halfway house also should never have it there in the first place for safety of they’re teenage patients. Many of them are allowed to truely “be their own boss” and to wonder around on the property on they’re own. Had they been playing and fooling around up there on top of the barn, then as well chouldn’t fallen like Roy to they’re very, very painful deaths. Just noting the simple fact.
@ tommy_jarvis_guy
you truly have the gift of gab, lol
anyway, just to differ from something that you said about the raft in part 4 that stays afloat for such a long time after its punctured so that Paul can discover his girl. actually inflatable rafts have very little if any air in the bottom part of the raft, and if they do have air in it, it is a separate tube to inflate then the outer sides of the raft, where almost all the air is. the raft works the same way as a zodiac raft, all the air is around the boat, not at the bottom. 
i like to bring up the point of Jason busting thru doors. it was awesome in part 4 when he did it, but impossible. even with Jason maybe on his way to zombiedom in part 4, thats the only way i can understand it, or maybe where Jason is a little stronger than most and maybe just maybe he hit a weak spot in the door, but that is a old heavy wooden door. i give Jason exploding thru the door in real life as unlikely.
But when Roy smashes thru the door in part 5 is totally impossible. he’s a goddamn paramedic and not built like Jason and he splinters that door like its made of styrofoam. i once had a door slammed into me when i was walking in, and it hurt my knee and face and didn’t smash the door, not even a dent, and i am 6′3″ 275 lbs!!!
so i call bullshit on all doors exploding when someone walks thru them, but they make for a nice entrance.
but it all comes back to, how come they don’t smell Jason or smell something foul when he is around? i mean, he doesn’t look like the most hygenic person out there, especially when he is a zombie in the later films.
Why thank you, bytor2112 … I think.
*lol*
But truely, thanks!
Anyway concerning the raft bit: Since I am honestly no expert on inflatable rafts, I guess I’ll have to more or less accept that your actually right on that one, since I’m more of a regular boat person when I went camping a lot more near cabins during my youth. And I NEVER went rafting or inner-tubing down a large river or lake. I was always too much afraid of any water logged snakes biting me or being finned by the fish more easily if I stuck my feet in the water. So I more or less remained on a family Pontoon Boat where we barbequed on. Heh heh.
But thanks for that lesson. But if your right now then I believe we might have to actually change a small part of the “Goofs” section for Part IV here this very website, since I believe the raft not sinking in The Final Chapter is still listed as part of it’s official goofs. So I guess for a change the film makers of this legendary inept from installment-to-installment series were right!
And as well: The sequences of Jason bursting through the door in The Final Chapter as well as Roy Burns (our now infamous Pseudo-Jason imposter) in Part V bursting through a quite obviously fake and much more thin balsa-wood door (which indeed appears to explode) is hysterically lame. It’s so obviously loaded with movie Squibs that are rigged to explode. And I’ve also had a problem with bodies being propelled through the windows in the series.
Including the later half of Part 1. It’s also unclear if Brenda’s over all body weight pressed against the glass and made it break, or if she was thrown (which seem’s highly unlikely given Mrs. Voorhees stature). So I never really understood or “got” that scene. Even though in Part 3 with Rick it’s still unbelieveable as well, but at least Jason was shown to have the ridiculous strength to crush a man’s skull until his eyeballs cock right out of they’re sockets. Factor in that he is shown picking up Chili’s body with no ease and moving Debbie later on as well so I don’t really mind that one as much, as ridiculous as it is.
But Roy Burns doing it to the Grandpa on staff Cheif cook in Part V is also unforgiveable. If he is indeed an average flesh & blood man that can be killed such as he is at the end of the film, then I don’t buy he can move as stealthy as Jason does to kill Tina & Violet (in her own teeny-tiny room no less!) and to propel bodies through the air as Jason does in Parts 3 and IV (with Rob Dier).
Even more hysterical–switching franchises/series brielf for a moment–is in the original Halloween II (1981) from Rick Rosenthal. Note the hysterically lame sequence when The Shape breaks a large front entrance window/door entrance with walking that slow. He must be one powerful son of a cock suckin’ bitch to do that, as I’m sure we’ve all (through general human neglance of our minds talking to someone else and being on shopping and social interaction among other things) accidentally walked into a door’s glass part, and I’m sure it hurt like a son of a butch. Plus he wasn’t cut all to hell as any normal, sane person would be, so I guess he really was virtually industructable to everything but a large explosion & being engulfed in flames moments later is what (in Carpenter & Hill’s mind) were the only things that chould destroy him.
But even lamer and funnier to me around the same time in that particular sequel is that Laurie shoots him at point-blank range with a large 357 Magnum revolver given to her by Dr. Loomis, and it only “blinds” him … as opposed to blowing his fuckin’ brains out the back of his head, as it should have. *lmao* Just a thought.
@ tommy_jarvis_guy
lol, if i got into picking out goofs and “huh?” moments from other horror movies, or hell, just other movies in general, we would be here a very long long long long long long long long long time, etc.
but yeah, i have always been bothered by the whole throwing bodies thru the windows and what not. to pick up a 180-200 lbs person is one thing, to throw them thru the window with the force that they do is another. same with the body up in the tree in the original. old mrs voorhees must of had the strength of 10 men, maybe she was wearing her Hercules ring? lol
but how about when they are talking about Jason in part 6, saying that he is a legend and its only stories. wouldn’t it be documented? a mad man kills 30+ people in a sleepy little community, plus throw his mother in there as well as having 10+ kills. also, Megan, who tells the story of Jason to the others, would have been a kid when all this was going on, i think that she would have somekind of first hand knowledge of the events that just happened down the street, lol.
but one of my biggest complaints was, how come they never recovered the body of Jason after part 6? why did the police just leave him down in the water chained to the bottom? and how stupid of an ending could you get? all Jason had to do was to pull himself down on the chain a bit to create slack around his neck and take the chain off.
and why the fuck did it take till part 9 to get the FBI involved with this? they would have been swarming the scene after part 2, cause crystal lake probably has a police force of 3 cops with 1 gun between them. and if they are anything like Officer Dorff from part 1, no wonder it took them so long to catch Jason.
also in Jason X, they mention all the ways they tried to execute Jason and failed. how come they never cut his head off? it did in The Kurgan
, and lets see Jason’s regeneration skills fix that one.
also, in part 8, why does this guy have a hockey mask on his boat with a fake knife? easy, to try and scare his girlfriend. but the question is, why is there an axe cut in the mask? she doesn’t know what Jason looked like and i highly doubt that he did either, only heard it thru “legend of Jason stories”. lol, he is the biggest fucking killer in the history of man, and he is only a legend. i guess when i’m 80 years old and have a grandson sitting on my knee i will tell him about the legend of Ted Bundy, they say he killed 32 women, possibly more, we will never know, cause his story is only a legend. but grandpa, i read about him on the internet and seen him on the biography channel, he was real. shut up kid, he was a legend, just a story and we are keeping it that way. lol, how the fuck did i ramble off on that one?
Part 3: When he attacked Chris and she blacked out, why the hell didn’t he kill her?? And for that matter, what the hell happened to her period?? She just woke up in her bed?? That’s a bunch of bologna, I want to know what exactly happened to her and why… Also, I would have to agree with the earlier statement of Jason being all of a sudden afraid of water in VS… He willingly walked into the lake after Tommy in the end of part 6 and walked/swam/whatever from the boat all the way to Manhattan in 8, and now he’s afraid of a little bit of water trickling from the ceiling?? WTF??
TFC – Why does Gordon jump out the damn window?
@ madmaxx, the random head in the planter was Eddie’s (you know, Star Mummy!)
Redpath— I totally agree with you in saying once NEW LINE took over that is when the Friday films for me anyway began to SUCK!!!
And in regards to someone above saying they never understood why Jason became a child in NY at the end….Well for me I have always looked at Jason like this:
1. Jason drowned as a boy. So this would me he did die, as I like to view the film. Others would argue that he escaped the water and just kept on living in the woods as a hermit.
2. I believe that Jason has always been supernatural. I believe that at some point when he died he was able to become the full manifestation of his vengenance or the lakes death curse. And whenever he is seen in the films…especially in NY as a child then this is his true form.
I know that there obviously is things in the series that doesn’t add up like Jason looking like a red-headed redneck in 2 and then a beast in 3. But I think that is what adds to the mystery and appeal of the Lakes death curse and the films. Don’t know if I am the only one who feels this way, but wanted to give my little opinion.
Correction:
“This would MEAN he did die”
@JC Legion
Thats also my WTf thing of the series.Theres no way she got away from Jason,shes was on the ground kicking and screaming.Then she wakes up her bed and her parents dont even bring it up? its before part 2 took place and hes maskless and without the overalls-
@killer-c
Indeed, and that Continunity and logical flub is also brought up in the awesome ‘04 boxset cast reunion commentary track (about him not having the same clothes from around when Part 2 was supposed to take place that it was even before that time) form the standard definition DVD boxset. But also in the Crystal Lake Memories book, the first writer on the film that completely re-wrote it uncredited (because him & his agent saw the first screening of it and his agent basically bullied him into taking his name of the final print credits, by the way) was a Romanian-born writer named Petru Popescu. In his re-written drafts he REALLY pushed for a bit more of a backstory for good ole’ Jason, including some much hinted at sexual awakenings.
He basically wanted to hint that Chris–two years ago as of that time–would have survived an attempted assault/rape at the hands of Crystal Lake county’s own Mr. Voorhees. But the original husband & wife writing due team of Martin Kitrosser (who’s been an uncredited and also credited writer and script supervisor of the first five installments since day one) and Carol Watson basically re-wrote a lot of that out over time on set. Coupled with the Mormon-beleifs of Ms. Dana Kimmel (and no, as we all know those are her own personal beleifs and I am NOT knocking them being a personal of faith myself) she requested Steve Miner to please take out some sexual this & that, basically very little of that was left intact on the final finished film that debuted in August of ‘82.
Basically only the now infamous “flashback two years ago” sequence that hints at much more of a violent & sexualized sexual assault, instead of the usual “stalk ‘n slash” elements that the original Paramount side of the series is known for, was left in tact. So thats why it all ends up so oddball (just as the accidentally screwed up ending form Miner’s Part 2 as well). But reading the book, you can tell the uncredited Romanian writer was a bit displeased that he was only allowed to go so deep with the usual cardboard thin early ’80s original Slasher film craze characters. If anyone else has the book, turn to the 3rd chapter. It’s all there to read.
Rob’s sister was a character in part 2, Sandra. She was the girl that was impaled in bed while having sex… And Jason didn’t teleport in front of Chris’ van, the movie showed him run to it…
After reading most of the posts here I have come to the conclusion that most fans of Friday the 13th are stupid. Jason X is a GOOD Friday film…